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The BBC has been forced to alter the line-up of the panel on this week’s Question Time after it emerged there would be no Scottish Government representation in the original line-up.

The programme, to be broadcast this week from Inverness, was trailed on the BBC’s own webpages as having a panel made up of three Unionist politicians, a London based journalist and an actor.

The actor, Alan Cumming, was the only panel representative supportive of Scottish independence, whilst the journalist, Melanie Philips is a well-known right leaning Unionist.  The original panel line-up also included Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont.

However, following complaints and fierce online debate over the apparent omission, it has emerged that Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will now sit alongside Mr Cumming.

The panel now also includes leading No campaign member, Lib Dem Charles Kennedy alongside former Conservative Minister Lord Forsyth.  Kennedy replaces Lib Dem MP and Treasury Minister Danny Alexander, who was listed in the original line-up.

However, the four against two line-up has been criticised by SNP MSP Kenneth Gibson who has called for balance in debates that will feature the independence referendum.

Mr Gibson said: "It is inevitable that independence will be discussed on this week's Question Time, and it would be in the best interests of a fair and measured debate if the BBC invited equal numbers of panellists from both the Yes and No campaigns.

"In future the BBC should ensure a balanced panel, from both sides of the referendum debate, whenever independence is expected to be discussed."

A Question Time spokeswoman defended the panel selection and said: "This Thursday's programme in Inverness is a regular edition of Question Time, rather than a special programme on independence.

"We have picked a balanced panel reflecting a range of political views and debates in both Scotland and the UK as a whole. The range of questions about Scotland, the UK or international politics is, as always, down to our audience on the night."

Mr Gibson’s comments follow the news that the BBC will introduce guidelines in an attempt at preventing reporters from using Unionist inspired terms when describing independence.  Words like “separation”, “divorce” and “break-up” are to be ditched in favour of more appropriate phrases.

Comments  

 
# Alathia 2012-06-06 07:23
Whilst it would be deemed fair and impartial to balance the panelist numbers between pro and anti independence on any future Question time (as the subject to bound to crop up), this is the BBC that we're talking about. I's better start howling at the moon...
 
 
# brh206 2012-06-06 07:26
At least it is some movement after the weekend of Britishness or Englishness, whichever way you want to look at it.
 
 
# Macart 2012-06-06 07:32
OH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

"We have picked a balanced panel reflecting a range of political views and debates in both Scotland and the UK as a whole. The range of questions about Scotland, the UK or international politics is, as always, down to our audience on the night."

That's the anti-independence panel from hell and we're expected to buy that independence won't crop up in a Scottish edition of QT??

They're just takin' the pure No.1 now.
 
 
# Aplinal 2012-06-06 07:33
I Hope Nicola is on form, she has to up her game a bit in these forum (fora?). Stick to clear, unambiguous facts. Or state it's an 'opinion'. Let's keep clear of the elephant traps (especially from that, so-called, unbiased chairman Dimbleby!)

Now let's see what the seating arrangements are! Have a good one Nicola.
 
 
# clootie 2012-06-06 07:46
Aplinal

I don't think Nicola has to up her game at all. The problem with the recent debates has been the bias of the "chair".

The BBC intervenes to stop a response if effective, decides the sequence to respond to audience questions, controls interuptions , decides on the allocation of time, The chair can bypass an audience question it doesn't like and select those it does.Last but not least it selects the panel make-up.

BBC bias is the problem not the quality of the speakers.
 
 
# Macart 2012-06-06 08:00
Fully agree clootie. Given an equal platform Nicola has the measure of anyone on that panel. Watch for Dimbleby during the show. His treatment of Nicola on their last meeting was nothing short of appalling.
 
 
# proudscot 2012-06-06 10:12
Quoting Macart:
Fully agree clootie. Given an equal platform Nicola has the measure of anyone on that panel. Watch for Dimbleby during the show. His treatment of Nicola on their last meeting was nothing short of appalling.


If past experience of similar BBC hosted panels are anything to go by, the pro-independence opinions will be offered by Nicola Sturgeon, frequent interruptions and loud talking over will be by pro-unionist panellists, all ignored by a smirking Dimbleby.
 
 
# Macart 2012-06-06 12:15
Oh, if they're true to form, it's going to be a stitch up. But we live in hope that they have another referendum debate style night, where Nicola is allowed to shine. Of course that night may have been an aberration on the part of the Beeb.
 
 
# Siôn Jones 2012-06-06 08:48
I agree with you. Niclola is regularly shuted down with the collusion of the chairman - in fact, last time she was on QT Dimblore was joining in the heckling! She still manages to remain calm and get her point across.
 
 
# Aplinal 2012-06-06 12:01
Hi all. I was not suggesting that Nicola is no good! I admire her very much, but she needs to be careful not to create a hostage to fortune. the issue about the BofE for example. While it is 'normal' and perhaps expected that in a form of currency agreement / system, Scotland would be on the BofE panel, but it was presented as a 'fact', which enabled the dependency parties to latch onto this point, and ignore the other valid points made.

That's what I mean by uping her game.
 
 
# cuckooshoe 2012-06-06 14:23
It is a fact.. However Nicola should tell the audience that the Bank of England was nationalised in 1946, that it's name is a misnomer and that it is the state bank of the United Kingdom..
 
 
# amfraeembro 2012-06-06 16:18
And make the point that 8.5% of its assets belong to Scotland.
 
 
# Katerina 2012-06-06 07:34
Oliver Brown, in one of his many pamphlets supporting Scottish Independence, referred to the BBC as the Anglo-saxophone.
 
 
# Boris Broon 2012-06-06 07:49
The BBC probably view Phillips as a supporter of independence, although not for conventional reasons. Good that Alan Cumming has now got back up as I doubt even he would be prepared for some of the bile and hatred that will be heading his way, I would venture to guess that a Rastafarian would get a better welcome at a Combat 18 meeting than an independence supporter would on the BBC.
 
 
# Dundonian West 2012-06-06 10:49
A panellist or member of the audience may be primed beforehand to ask the silly question to Alan Cumming why he supports independence for Scotland as a non-uk taxpayer.
Always a 'good' question for a Unionist,forget ting that most of the diehard Unionists live and work in England,automat ically denying themselves of the Referendum vote in Scotland!
He should be prepared for that-----he's already stated he'll be changing his Place of Residence in order to qualify for the Scottish Electoral Register,and vote YES in 2014.
Many Unionists---presumably Melanie Phillips,do NOT qualify for the Electoral Register in Scotland but are given more than ample air-time,and newspaper columns to criticise the People in Scotland who support the independence movement!
Bizarre.
 
 
# balbeggie 2012-06-06 12:11
He is NOT a non-uk taypayer. If you have income arising in the UK then that is subject to UK tax - no ifs or buts about it. Mr Connery pays more tax in the UK than most who read these pages. If you are non-resident for tax purposes your world wide income is not taken into consideration. From what Mr Cumming has put out is that he IS resident for UK tax.
 
 
# zedeeyen 2012-06-06 07:55
Don't fret. In terms of ability, Nicola counts as three.
 
 
# naemairleesplease 2012-06-06 17:17
Lamont will probably count as 3 for the independence side too.
Wonder if she'll have a script.
 
 
# edinburgh quine 2012-06-06 08:01
"We have picked a balanced panel reflecting a range of political views....."

It is really beyond this arrogant bunch to acknowledge a fault, isn't it? The thing was being held in Inverness; what did they any Scottish questions would be about? How difficult it was to hunt haggis this season?
 
 
# Wee-Scamp 2012-06-06 08:18
Of course I'm sure we can rely upon the BBC to have carefully picked all the audience members to reflect a proper political balance. ....... Not!!
 
 
# Siôn Jones 2012-06-06 08:50
When it was in Aberystwyth, t the heart of one of the most Welsh speaking parts of Wales, there wasn't a single Welsh accent in the audience, and a friend who lives there told me that a lot of the audience had been bussed in from god know where!
 
 
# Dcanmore 2012-06-06 09:43
The BBC have been at this for years. I remember a Saturday morning kids show was being broadcast from my home town in the late 80s. There was a buzz of anticipation for weeks in the town (which is pretty remote) with a promise of celebrities, kids competitions and bands all on live telly. Well when it did happen, on a glorious summer's day by the sea, the few hundred local parents and their kids that were expecting a summer jamboree were pretty much locked out! The audience including the kids that took part were all bused in from Carlisle, 100 miles away!
 
 
# Leswil 2012-06-06 08:20
Nicola needs to perform as she did in the recent Parliament debate on the referendum, where I was impressed by her performance.
However in the also recent debate on BBC Politics she was less effective.
This was however due to the lack of control by the BBC who set up and allowed Unionists to run riot, and not least the absolute bullying tactics of Ruth Davidson. Nicola has to be prepared to not be put off or silenced by those speaking over her.On this coming debate and future debates the SNP need to take the gloves off, and insist on a balanced representation ie 3 NO against 3 yes .
This is the only way to make the debate fair as opposed to the way the BBC rig these debates which does nothing for democracy.
 
 
# xyz 2012-06-06 08:44
It's difficult indeed when your up against the BBC editor, loaded questions and foaming at the mouth LabourCons in the audience.

I would not want to see the deputy First Minister come across, as anything other than composed and in control of the facts. Nothing like the hectoring Ruth for example.
 
 
# Siôn Jones 2012-06-06 08:52
I think Ruthie was much diminished by that performance. Nobody likes the school bully! Nicola, on the other hand, was enhanced by the way she kept calm in the face of intolerable provocation. The chairing was shameful.
 
 
# Dcanmore 2012-06-06 09:21
That would be the awful and shambolic 'debate' chaired by Isobel Fraser that BBC politico Brian Taylor called 'splendid'... humph!
 
 
# Siôn Jones 2012-06-06 08:56
It is not certain that the editors will pick any Scottish questions, let alone one about independence. When QT was in Wales a while ago, thee was not a single Welsh question, and when Leanne Wood tried to put one of the questions in a Welsh context, she was slapped down by dimblebore. I complained as did hundreds of others, and got the usual non-committal nonsense about qt being for discussing UK wide issues. I will dig out the same complaint as a template for the one I will write on Friday morning.
 
 
# Blanco 2012-06-06 18:16
And yet the recent London mayoral election - an obviously 'regional' issue - dominated a number of QTs with full Dimbleby encouragement.

Perhaps the move to Glasgow will give the programme some perspective, but I doubt it.
 
 
# Barontorc 2012-06-06 09:16
Having been modded-off on another Newsnet BBC topic - for whatever reason I remain mystified, I will try to make the point again that the BBC claim it is not responsible for what hirelings, such a Dimbleby does and that QT is an independent production.

Well again, slap my thigh and call me Mildred - but their "big boy did it an ran away" story doesn't ding with me.

The BBC has a Charter which underpins all BBC broadcasting and their latest scam statement that complaints are happily received and will be put into the mincing machine is pure contemptuous twaddle.

The only missing musketeer in this farce of a QT set-up is Lord Foulkes - and he'll probably be in the "selected" audience.

Give us a break!

Comment edited by NNS Mod Team
 
 
# Caadfael 2012-06-06 09:22
HMmmm, some kind of "Flash-mob" to counter the "bus-ins"?
Check the registration and or phone number of the bus co?
Either or both will show from whence they came and questions duly asked!
That'll set dimblebore's gas at a peep!
 
 
# C2DEalba 2012-06-06 10:10
I think Nicola does extremely well in the face of such animosity.

Why is Alex Salmond not taking part on these panels? As we all know, he also does well on these programmes.

The BBC will never change, its not in their organisational culture.

Indyref needs to convince the voters but it must also fight a media which is hostile to objective and fair debate.

The BBC are the state's propaganda machine and they will do as the British establishment wants. The paymasters will make sure of it.
 
 
# snowthistle 2012-06-06 10:16
Maybe they are holding Alex Salmond back until nearer the time? He might have more impact that way.
 
 
# Holebender 2012-06-06 10:22
Maybe the SNP does not want to be portrayed as a one man band. Mind you, why is it always Nicola? There are many able debaters on the SNP benches, so why not let some of them have a go? Angus Robertson, for example, is MP for the constituency next to Inverness so maybe he should have been nominated for this show.
 
 
# balbeggie 2012-06-06 12:16
I agree, I wish we could see other Ministers now and again. I would like to see Alisdair Allan on - he has an engaging speaking manner that comes over well.
 
 
# Dundonian West 2012-06-06 11:26
"The BBC are the state's propaganda machine and they will do as the British establishment wants."
Has been,is,and always will be.
Trouble is,so many of us have been sooooo slow catching on.
NOT ANY MORE.
 
 
# mountaincadre 2012-06-06 18:04
In my humble opinion c2dealba its because you dont have a dog and bark yourself," why dos'nt AS take part".
 
 
# pmcrek 2012-06-06 10:39
I'd just like to point out that us Greens have as much right to representation in Scotland's media now as the Lib Dems.

I believe this would somewhat redress the pro-union panelist bias in debates, especially if you leave the Lib Dems out entirely, afterall we have the Tory there to speak on their behalf.
 
 
# Teri 2012-06-06 13:43
Exactly, I'm appalled that the Greens are seldom given the opportunity to appear in debates and dont get their fair share of questions at FMQs either.
 
 
# lumilumi 2012-06-06 20:46
In an independent Scotland, I'd probably vote Green so I much sympathise with you both, pmcrek and Teri.

However, the Greens only have the two MSPs and while they made gains in the local elections, they still remain a small party, so I'm afraid they do get their fair share of FMQs and debates.

However, it was great seeing Patrick Harvie in that indy debate (with Isobel Fraser) alongside Nicola Sturgeon. I think he was the best of the lot, I respect him a lot as a politician.

I don't agree with all the policies of the Green party in my small independent country but I always vote for them because I think it's important that we have a plurality of voices in Parliament, and the Greens are an environmental watchdog, making other parties take more note of environmental issues. Our fully PR system of course allows more small parties to be represented. Right now the Greens have 10 MPs (out of 200), they took a drubbing in the last GE, before that they had 15.

And Scotland should be proud, 2 out of 129! Compared with Westminster: 1 out of 650. :-(
 
 
# tartanfever 2012-06-06 10:57
What a missed opportunity for the SNP.

They should have left it as it was, a panel of unionists, and told Alan Cumming to step down from participating in protest at the lack of an independence voice.

This would have been more damaging to the BBC in terms of outing it's unionist agenda. Instead we have one SNP and an actor against all the unionists - ready to get shouted down, lied to, ignored and told to be quiet by DD.
 
 
# balgayboy 2012-06-06 11:12
yup, let their bile spread among the people and let these same people hear what a regressive shower they are spewing the doom and gloom to people of Scotland...not true there is a great future for our people with an Independent Scotland. Roll on 2014
 
 
# redcliffe 2012-06-06 11:29
I agree tartan fever, the best thing to do was cumming to complain of bias and walk out and let them all argue with each other as no government representative. Then the question could be asked, why were they not there?
 
 
# Dundonian West 2012-06-06 11:02
Melanie Phillips has a word or two to say about Scottish Independence.2012.
dailymail.co.uk/.../...
Random quotes:----
"The Scots know they stand to lose big time if they divorce themselves from Westminster."

"Thanks to the huge subsidies by Westminster, the Scots enjoy far more lavishly financed public services than those south of the border including, for example, free prescriptions, free personal care for the elderly and free university degrees."

Any self respecting person in Scotland knows exactly why we have the above--- good government in Scotland within the confines of Westminster's financial/constitutional strait-jacket.
DECIDING OUR PRIORITIES.
VOTE YES IN 2014.
Melanie? Come on up,make Scotland your Place of Residence,Regis ter and vote NO.
 
 
# Diabloandco 2012-06-06 11:44
I wish to hell I hadn't followed your lead!
I had thought most balderdash and piffle was contained in the DT but I forgot both Ms Philips and Quentin Letts - I just loved his headline way back at the election,
"Good riddance! QUENTIN LETTS is fed up with ungrateful Scots gorging on our money."

dailymail.co.uk/.../...
Haveen't read or listened to the wee scunner since.

I do hope that Ms Philips is given an interesting welcome by the good folk of Inverness.
 
 
# lumilumi 2012-06-06 20:53
Uuugh. Read that pile of bile, makes me boak.

If she comes out with similar stuff tomorrow in Inverness QT... Might go down well with some viewers in England but surely such distorted, untrue, bigoted Brit-nat rant will turn off fair-thinking, intelligent viewers UK-wide!
 
 
# Liam 2012-06-06 11:29
Hold on a minute, we're totally overreacting here.

It's my understanding that the SNP were asked on right from the start, but they were unable to confirm a name before the listings were printed. This isn't unusual. You'll notice it's quite common for Dimbleby the previous week to only announce part of the following weeks' panel - that's because even he doesn't know the full line-up until much nearer the time! But of course it's much easier for people on here to assume conspiracy and suggest that somehow the BBC have been 'forced' to back down. It's utter nonsense.

Secondly, yes ok this debate is sure to include independence, but it will also include many other issues of relevance to a UK-wide audience. Are we suggesting the BBC shouldn't retain party sync for those other topics (ie. Con, Lib Dem, Lab, SNP, Tory)? What if they go on to discuss the Leveson Inquiry for example? When the UK held the AV referendum the BBC didn't balance every Question Time debate equally between pro-AV and anti - they only did so when it was a specific debate about that issue.
 
 
# art1001 2012-06-06 18:45
You must be an BBC insider to know that Liam. Surely if the independence question (as you seem to know somehow it will) crops up then in fairness the Chair to nominate only two to speak for and two, of the many, against. Also there should be no input from the audience as it could not be guaranteed to be balanced.
 
 
# jim288 2012-06-06 11:52
A bit off topic but here's an e-mail I received earlier today:

"Thank you for participating in our Mood of the Nation quiz. The results will be revealed on Sunday Politics Scotland on 10 June 2012 and on BBC 2 Daily Politics on Monday 11 June 2012. We hope that you will watch the programme to find out more about the research.

While we are happy to publish your emails we cannot publish the personal details of the sender without their permission. - NNS Mod Team
 
 
# Leswil 2012-06-06 12:21
Tomorrows debate is chock full of the anti Independence crowd and I worry that Nicola will not get a word in edgeways.

The BBC have heavily weighed the odds in Unionist favour. We really need some heavy hitters to take this on otherwise they will have their way.
BBC says this is an ordinary debate not about independence what a sick joke, when are the SNP going to get the kid gloves off.
 
 
# Jim1320 2012-06-06 13:03
Actually the panel is a car crash waiting to happen. Melanie's views (if she sticks to them) are hardly likely to please Johann and Charles regardless of topic and they may spend as much time trying refute her and Forsyth (who is as equally right wing as Melanie) as they do attacking Nicola and Alan.

Leveson, Syria and the Euro crisis are bound to come up and Melanie has strong views about them all. Might have the bizarre situation of Nicola, Alan and Charles all agreeing against Melanie and Michael on most topics with Johann in a complete spin as she tries to stay left of centre but not agree with Nicola.

Dimbleby might not allow Independence as a topic which actually might not be a bad thing. The SNP have sound policies on most topics. A chance for Nicola to let people in England see that they are a good Government. In the past I have heard people say that they wish they had an option like the SNP to vote for. The wider picture on both sides of the Tweed is important. There will be plenty of opportunities to plug the Yes campaign and being competent on bread and butter issues is part of the Yes campaign.

Let Johann uncomfortably force the issue or trying to wedge topics for cheap points....or worse be seen to agree with Melanie. :)

Should be a hoot.
 
 
# ituna semea 2012-06-06 14:51
I see you have got the point about Question Time, congratulations ! Apart from the constitution Ms Sturgeon Ms Lamont and Mr Kennedy will be in broad agreement on most of the topics of interest to 90% of the BBC Licence payers, with Mr Cummings there as celebrity leftie luvvie the left wing bias is complete.
 
 
# Holebender 2012-06-06 15:16
It will indeed be a hoot watching Ms. Lamont trying to find a way not to agree with Ms. Sturgeon on anything.
 
 
# ituna semea 2012-06-06 15:36
She will not have to try very hard if Ms Sturgeon makes any more risible claims about the Bank of England MPC.
 
 
# Holebender 2012-06-06 16:05
Isn't that at odds with your earlier claim that Ms. Sturgeon, Ms. Lamont, and Mr. Kennedy will be in broad agreement?

Do you just make it up as you go along, or is there a coherent case in there somewhere?
 
 
# ituna semea 2012-06-06 16:19
No I said apart from the constitutional.
 
 
# Jim1320 2012-06-06 18:24
To be fair they have right wing luvvies on the show too, like Starkey.
 
 
# Davy 2012-06-06 12:40
Have some faith folks, they have four plus Dimbleby on their side and we have two on ours, see their outnumbered.

Remember they have no positive message only the same old negative crap, which is always repeated, weel stuff them.

Vote yes, Vote Scotland
 
 
# Dundonian West 2012-06-06 12:44
OT.Americans for Scottish Independence.
www.americansforanindependentscotland.org/.../
"Scotland is ready for independence, and the world is ready for an independent Scotland."

"Americans for an Independent Scotland intends to raise awareness of the “Yes Scotland” campaign here in the United States."

Hope they inform fellow Americans about the British Broadcasting Corporation Scotland agenda.
Good luck to them.
Remember,folks here in Scotland,to read and sign the 'Yes Scotland' Declaration.
Thankyou.
 
 
# Liam 2012-06-06 13:31
# Jim1320 makes a very good point: we don't even know if independence WILL be a question in the debate. After all, there's not been anything particularly major in the news about it this week. I'm sure it'll be mentioned, but that's a very different thing.
 
 
# edinburghdave 2012-06-06 14:02
With the inclusion of Forsythe on the panel, independance is a certainty as a topic.
 
 
# scotsmanc1 2012-06-06 14:17
OT

News from UKPA

Drinks business Diageo plans to invest more than £1 billion in Scotch whisky production over the next five years, creating hundreds of jobs.

The company intends to build a major new malt distillery as part of the investment, alongside a programme of major expansion at a number of its existing distilleries.

It also plans to invest in substantial new warehousing capacity to house the millions of additional litres of Scotch whisky which the distillation boost will produce. The firm said that the plans will create more than 100 new Diageo jobs across Scotland, mainly in rural areas

Picked this up from Sky News but no mention of Scotland from the Diageo spokesman. Spokesman claimed great support from UKTI and the Uk Government. Not sure if the BBC has reported this.

Good news for Scotland with hundreds of jobs envisaged.
 
 
# src19 2012-06-06 15:09
Of course the unionists will deviate from the questions asked on QT to say how too wee too poor too stupid if were to "separate" from UK and how grateful we should be of Wasteminister. And no doubt Dimbleby will not stop them.

Of course the minute Nicola or Alan want to either try to hit back or talk about Scotland and/or Independence Dimbleby will stop them and remind them QT is for a UK-wide audience and not just about Scotland.
 
 
# Holebender 2012-06-06 15:19
Ah... but didn't the head of the BBC tell a Holyrood committee just the other day that the independence referendum is of great importance to the whole of the UK?
 
 
# src19 2012-06-06 16:05
Much like the ConLibLab's what they say in public is one thing but what they say in private is another.
 
 
# UpSpake 2012-06-06 15:48
Nicola Sturgeon is no heavyweight as far as media presence is concerned. She is Deputy First Minister of Scotland for goodness sake and needs not to be talked down to by anyone.
Last time she was on QT I was incensed by her timidity. Completely unacceptable to me and if I had been her faced with the votriol and bias I would have torn off the microphone and marched out of the studio and never - Never gone back to that loaded program.
She is setting herself up for a fall once again unless she significantly up's her game.
She may be a nice person and competent in her role but neither she nor Salmond is statesman grade potential consumate politicians as they are - both.
She might only be remembered at this event by what she does rather than what she says as the SNP's Bank of England stance is utter nonsense and whilst I am as keen as anyone for independence the SNP have got it all wrong with this line.
Their thinking is at least several decades out of date.
It's all about upping the game and playing by a different set of rules. The SNP should be setting the agenda as opposed to following it.
 
 
# Holebender 2012-06-06 16:08
Has the SDA costed changing every vending machine in the country into their calculations regarding the Scots Merk?

I'd dearly love to see Scotland with it's own currency, but it would be an expensive and impractical step to take on independence day.
 
 
# snowthistle 2012-06-06 16:18
I would love to see our own currency also and i believe it will happen but it has ti be at a time when it is right for us.
With independence we will have the option.
 
 
# SolTiger 2012-06-06 17:10
Well every country who joined the Euro had to do that sort of thing and seemed to manage the transition okay.

I have little doubt Scotland would be able to plan a similar change with minimal problems.
 
 
# snowthistle 2012-06-06 17:18
Plan a similar change yes, but when it is in our interests and not before.
Sterling is the logical choice while the economies of RUK and Scotland are similar.
There are many trade advantages to a shared currency, the problems start when the economies begin to diverge. With independence, when that time comes, we will have options.
 
 
# clootie 2012-06-06 19:45
UpSpake

I must have watched a different programme!
A top quality politician who is more than capable in this arena.
 
 
# Jim Johnston 2012-06-06 20:49
Hi UpSpake,
Maybe you've never met with a few old firm supporters on the way home from a game.
Same difference.
QT should come with a health warning, it's tabloid telly at it's best / worst depending on what way you intend to vote in 2014.
 
 
# Mark MacLachlan 2012-06-06 16:46
Cheesey thoughts on what motivates a Unionist.

.../you-cant-fool-others-if-youre-fooling.html
 
 
# peter,aberdeenshire 2012-06-06 19:24
BBC biased? I sent this text today to the John Beattie show asking about whisky.
Glen Garioch 12 year old, had a taste and bought a bottle at The Taste of Grampian.
Went to the distillery tour yesterday and learned that whisky accounts for a third of the UK food and drink exports. Add this to the news today of expansion plans and the future looks good for an independent Scotland.
The text was read out word for word, except for the last four words.
The BBC in Scotland edited my text to suggest I meant things looked good for the UK knowing full well I meant Scotland.
I have no idea if the presenter chose to do this or some member of the production team but I feel pretty hacked off about it.
 
 
# Hirta 2012-06-06 19:39
Should be on the iPlayer. Can we find it?

So coupled with your complete text, let's all hear this blatant piece of anti-independence.
 
 
# peter,aberdeenshire 2012-06-06 20:32
should be, probably about ten past twelve or so.
 
 
# peter,aberdeenshire 2012-06-06 20:37
7:35 onwards
 
 
# Mark MacLachlan 2012-06-06 21:13
Hugely frustrating, but their get out is simple,they were discussing whisky, not Independence.
 
 
# Mark MacLachlan 2012-06-07 15:16
Peter, intrigued about your question I asked someone who works on the JB show for an answer. This is what I got back, and I believe it.

Quote:
The honest answer is I don't know. There was no debate in the studio about the text being read out or not or whether bits of it were to be or had been left out. There was no corporate decision and we got lots and lots of texts on the subject.
 
 
# peter,aberdeenshire 2012-06-07 16:37
I think probably it is someone in production that perhaps edits the text, mind you it must be pretty quick as there was very little time between sending the text and it being read.
I also agree that the get out was they were discussing whisky but they still misrepresented my views to suit their own viewpoint.
 
 
# D_A_N 2012-06-07 15:54
Keep the text on your phone for now... Please don't delete it.

Next time the show is on, see if you can write something similarly intelligent. But this time (preferably from a different number) use the summary that it's good we are in the union.

Make it the same length as the other text to, so they can not use length as an issue.

If they include this then I'll get put it all together with screenshots etc for my upcoming BBC bias archive :)

Two texts on the same day would be ideal though. One indy and one union one.. Easier to prove
 
 
# sneckedagain 2012-06-06 19:31
Upspake.
I don't suppose giving the people referendum on independence is setting the agenda.

Personal attack on another poster removed - NNS Mod Team
 
 
# Jim Johnston 2012-06-06 20:37
I'd love to see Alex Neil on this particular QT. Nicola will more than hold her own, but Alex would shred the heads of Philips and Forsyth with both hands behind his back and that nice wee smile on his face.

I think Alex N is one of many who will punch well above his weight over the next two years.

Roll on 2014, it just might make Bannockburn look like a warm up event we all missed.
 
 
# lumilumi 2012-06-06 23:03
What do you mean "punch above his weight"? ;-) I think that's a bit demaning. He's got substance, facts, passion, wit, and that mad schoolboy grin. I love to see him in action.

I think someone above suggested Mike Russell, and he is a good politician and a very good debater, but to me, he comes across as a bit too slick, and his style of delivery is a bit pontificating.

I love John Swinney. The guy looks like an accountant, or an old-fashioned local bank manager, is hugely knowledgeable, measured, factual, softly spoken... And laughs outloud uproariously at FMQs when la lamentable Lamont paints herself into yet another corner.

Nicola Sturgeon is cool and collected, in possession of the facts and articulate. It's not her fault if (BBC) panel chairs let others interrupt or talk over her.

The SNP or the independence movement certainly is not the one-man-band the anti-independists want to portray it as, with headlines such as “Alex Salmond’s referendum”, instead of “Scotland’s referendum”.

I'm in business and the one question we ask regularly is: What would happen to our business if our MD was run over by a tram tomorrow? Who would take over? And we make contingency plans.

Not that Alex Salmond would be run over by a tram anytime soon, at least not in Edinburgh.;-)
 
 
# Jim Johnston 2012-06-07 08:13
Hi lumilumi,
Point taken re AN, my thoughts were simply considering under rated perceived talent within the Scottish government ranks.
I fully agree with your assessments, I'm more than happy with the SG.
 
 
# Embradon 2012-06-07 09:38
Do you have influence JJ?

According to QT tweet, Alex Neil now on Panel.

Presumably Nicola is be busy trying to stop the media feral pack blaming the legionella on the SNP.
 
 
# exel 2012-06-06 23:31
"Mr Gibson’s comments follow the news that the BBC will introduce guidelines in an attempt at preventing reporters from using Unionist inspired terms when describing independence. Words like “separation”, “divorce” and “break-up” are to be ditched in favour of more appropriate phrases."

The term in use should be “Secession”
Secession (derived from the Latin term secessio) is the act of withdrawing from an organization, union, or especially a political entity. Threats of secession also can be a strategy for achieving more limited goals.

In my opinion "Question Time", where ever it is broadcast from, should not have "Political Party" representation on the panel.

The panel should consist of the questioners and Mr. Dimbleby to referee.

Time allocated per question and ample time for audience participation.
 
 
# Teri 2012-06-07 13:28
Nicola Sturgeon unable to appear tonight due to dealing with Legionella outbreak.l Alex Neil is taking her place.
 
 
# Caadfael 2012-06-07 14:42
If Dimbore wont allow "Scottish" questions, just what the hell is the beeb's point in bringing him up to Scotland in the first place?
Will someone please ask him directly .. and badger him (for a change!) for an answer!
It would be lovely to see his gas set at a peep!
 
 
# gus1940 2012-06-07 16:24
They would just edit it out before transmission.
 

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