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The Labour party in Scotland have claimed that the proposed one year pay freeze on public sector workers earning over £21,000 per year amounts to ‘Tory Cuts’.

The attack from Labour’s finance spokesman Andy Kerr (pictured) followed an announcement by John Swinney that a key plan intended to protect jobs and front line services next year will involve those paid from the public purse to forego a pay increase if they earn over £21,000.

Mr Swinney spelled out the plans in a statement made at the weekend that lays out the ground prior to his announcement of the Scottish budget on Wednesday.  The Scottish government are facing a £1.3 billion cut to next years grant as the UK struggles with the financial deficit left behind by the last Labour administration.  The SNP have claimed that Scotland now needs full fiscal autonomy in order to grow the economy and mitigate the damage caused by the crisis in the UK’s finances.

The SNP’s finance secretary has said the restraint on pay will save £300 million and safeguard 10,000 jobs.  He also promised other measures to help to offset the pay-freeze such as extra funding to prevent council tax rises.

Mr Swinney said: “The council tax freeze, along with other measures such as scrapping prescription charges, will make the pay restraint that is necessary fairer and more acceptable,

“And that restraint will enable us to protect employment, by maximising the resources available to invest in frontline services and economic recovery.”

Labour have responded by accepting there has to be pay restraint but launching an attack on the SNP proposals arguing that it is not the Scottish Government’s job to implement such measures.

Labour’s finance spokesman Andy Kerr said: “I accept that tough decisions will have to be made and, in particular, there will have to be pay restraint in the public sector, but it is not the Scottish Government’s job to implement Tory cuts for them.

“A Labour Government in Scotland would use this budget to provide low-paid workers with a living wage and take action to provide training and employment for young people.”

The SNP plans were welcomed by other opposition parties with the Lib Dems arguing that they should have gone further.

Speaking for the Lib Dems, Jeremy Purvis said
“We support a public-sector pay freeze for those earning over £21,000 but we also believe the pay bill for those earning over £80,000 needs to be cut by 10%,”

Tory spokesman Derek Brownlee said:
“We would rather people were in work with a pay freeze than out of work with no freeze at all.

“The Scottish Government’s position is very welcome news, as Scottish Conservatives have been calling for a pay freeze in the public sector since January.”

Mr Brownlee added:
“A public-sector pay freeze would protect jobs and help secure the recovery.”

Unions in Scotland are reported to be planning to reject the 12 month pay-freeze proposals.

Comments  

 
# robbie 2010-11-15 09:32
Andy Kerr is not qualified to advise any one on finance.

Andy Kerr thinks PPP/PFI rip off scams are value for money. He,s not very bright when it comes to doing sums.

Andy Kerr is all for whacking the poor and low paid with brutal council tax hikes.

Best to ignore his constant whinging and whining.
 
 
# spagan 2010-11-15 10:13
Andy "PFI" Kerr is the same guy who "negotiated" the pay deal for GPs!
You could go and on about his "severe to moderate learning difficulties" - but puting him charge of finance!! The man keeps showing that "nobody does it (incompetence) better".
Unbelieveable that people vote for him. Out of compassion for the the poor soul?
Slainte Mhor
 
 
# sid 2010-11-15 10:16
morning , I think Mr Kerr and all his mates need to be reminded daily as do the general public.
LABOUR CAUSED THE PROBLEM.
Have left a post to this effect on the herald and also left a post on their "story " about snp not backing the calman proposals.
Sid
 
 
# west_lothian_questioner 2010-11-15 10:46
If I ran my household finances the way Andy Kerr wants to run the financial affairs of Scotland, I'd have the baillifs at the door. Giving him and his cohorts the chance to ru(i)n our country would be like giving an open invitation to the IMF to take over our systems.
Thanks Andy, but no thanks.
 
 
# Seagetagrip 2010-11-15 11:04
and so it continues. BBC`s man in Ireland reading the Irish Press and frightening the living daylights out of anyone wanting Independance. That is the idea anyway, followed by Kaye running scare stories re wend farms off Tiree when the matter has`nt even gone for consultation and The Hootsman worried about the detrimenntal effects of wind farms on forests. Really what they are after are nuclear power stations and to achieve that they need to rid Scotland of the nasty SNP. Ho hum!!
 
 
# bigskelf 2010-11-15 11:29
I think you'd find if the SNP were pro Nuclear then the Labour party would have a Wind farm epiphany
 
 
# mato21 2010-11-15 11:30
When I hear the contributors to Kaye with an e there never seems to be any locals giving their views by that I mean people who have known the years of graft and poverty they have endured while trying to eke out a living.Are these people still toiling and do not have time to take part it would be interesting to know their views as opposed to all the incomers whom I know from experience want to make everything a copy of what they left behind on the one hand or else stymie all progress as that is not what they moved to the area for on the other If you turn up with a big bank book you do not need to take into consideration what is best for the community as a whole Controversial view I know but that is how I see it.
 
 
# Roll_On_2011 2010-11-15 11:32
New ‘Ipsos MORI’ poll, on Cuts, Tax increase and NHS, from the BEEB

news.bbc.co.uk/.../...

Who is to blame for spending cuts?

Private sector workers

NuLabour – 45%
Coalition – 37%
SNP – 13%
No One – 3%

Public sector workers

NuLabour – 40%
Coalition – 38%
SNP – 15%
No One – 6%
 
 
# Calum21 2010-11-15 12:25
Just looking at that opinion pole, it is astounding that 13% blame the SNP administration for the cuts. Obviously been reading too much of the main stream media!
I think Andy Kerr clearly planned his comeback to these SNP proposals before he heard what they were going to be!
 
 
# ScotlandUnspun 2010-11-15 12:58
I'm on this story!

Thanks to all the readers who do the research and bring news stories to Newsnet! It is an invaluable resource!
 
 
# DJ 2010-11-15 14:54
More power to your elbow.

Remember "these figures will change" unless the propoganda coming our way can be countered.
 
 
# ScotlandUnspun 2010-11-15 14:52
where did this poll come from?
 
 
# ScotlandUnspun 2010-11-15 15:03
Jeez, just wrote up a piece on this but it's old news! Had a great angle on it too!
 
 
# rodmac 2010-11-15 16:07
So?? Labour and BBC and MSM regurgitate Old News on a regular basis, so why not??
You don't need to report it as current news, but you can make an article of it,can you not??
 
 
# steve 2010-11-15 19:44
This poll also found that 55% of people agree with the statement "The Scottish Government should use its tax-raising powers in order to minimise spending cuts needed in Scotland"

Yet hardly anyone talks about this and when I mention it here everyone tells me to bog off!

And by the way, while I totally agree that the need for cuts are not the fault of the SNP, they have to take responsibility for some of their decisions. For example, the council tax freeze cost £210 million this year, that's £210 million you can't spend on something else.

Labour will try to capitalise on this fact, and will brand the cuts as "SNP" cuts one cut at a time, the SNP will need to find a good way of countering this unfair attack, or in my opinion they will lose the election.
 
 
# tom 2010-11-15 11:55
Herald headline tomorrow:
SNP FLAGSHIP PROPOSAL ATTACKED BY LABOUR!!
 
 
# rgweir 2010-11-15 12:43
Spot on MATO 21,the people on K WITH AN E
want to be stuck in BRIGADOON.
As for the story,expect to see from now till may headlines with the words,,
TORY CUTS/SNP-TORY CUTS/SNP.
 
 
# McGillicuddy Dreams 2010-11-15 13:07
Tom...........

Sing up at the back there........

When The (Flag)Ship Comes In
By Bob Dylan


Oh the time will come up when the winds will stop
And the breeze will cease to be breathin'
Like the stillness in the wind before the hurricane begins
The hour when the (flag)ship comes in

And the sea will split and the ship will hit
And the sands on the shoreline will be shaking
And then the tide will sound and the wind will pound
And the morning will be breaking

The fishes will laugh as they swim out of the path
And the seagulls they'll be smiling
And the rocks on the sand will proudly stand
The hour that the (flag)ship comes in

And the words that are used for to get the ship confused
Will not be understood as they're spoken
For the chains of the sea will have busted in the night
And will be buried at the bottom of the ocean

A song will lift as the mainsail shifts
And the boat drifts on to the shoreline
And the sun will respect every face on the deck
The hour that the (flag)ship comes in

Then the sands will roll out a carpet of gold
For your weary toes to be a-touchin'
And the ships wise men will remind you once again
That the whole wide world is watchin'

Oh the foes will rise with the sleep still in their eyes
And they'll jerk from their beds and think they're dreamin'
But they'll pinch themselves and squeal and they'll know that it's for real
The hour that the (flag)ship comes in

Then they'll raise their hands sayin', "We'll meet all your demands
But we'll shout from the bow your days are numbered"
And like pharaohs tribe they'll be drownded in the tide
And like Goliath, they'll be conquered
 
 
# bmc875 2010-11-15 13:21
Calum, The majority of 'ordinary' (ie not politically minded like us!) people have no idea that Scotland is funded via a block grant from Westminster. They see the SNP as being in power and therefore responsible.
 
 
# G. P. Walrus 2010-11-15 13:50
Actually I think that message is out there, hence strong support for full fiscal autonomy.
The mistake I find many people making is to assume that cuts in particular rumpUK spending departments automatically translate into proportional cuts elsewhere.
Also I think there is little realisation of just how completely we've been shafted over capital spending.
 
 
# Dowanhill 2010-11-15 13:29
It will be interesting to see if News night Scotland now start to scrutinise Labours stance on this. Indepth questions now have to be asked of the Labour party in Scotland by the BBC in how they are going to deal with the 1.3 billion worth of cuts. I thought some questioning would arise from the broadcaster on the Monday following the the Labour party conference. Instead, Newsnight Scotland decided to dovote the entire programme discussing the decline in the Gaelic language.
 
 
# skintybroko 2010-11-15 13:51
"Unions in Scotland are reported to be planning to reject the 12 month pay-freeze proposals.#

Of course they are, so much for collective responsibility.

I work in the private sector and wages have been frozen for the past two years and are likely to remain frozen for the next two based on the way our sector (Construction and Engineering) is shaping up. Job losses are in the region of 50% across the sector with more potential redundancies just announced at a large Firm with offices throughout Scotland.

The public sector is generally accepted as being over manned and inefficient, and job losses are already planned, however if the Unions reject these proposals it will inevitably lead to even more job losses.

Maybe its about time the public sector felt the pain the private sector has been feeling for the last two years.
 
 
# G. P. Walrus 2010-11-15 14:24
How would that help the private sector, construction in particular?
 
 
# skintybroko 2010-11-15 14:30
It doesn't, just irked with this stance by the Unions when the budget is being set to try and save jobs and not increase job losses.
 
 
# G. P. Walrus 2010-11-15 17:38
Ok I see where you're coming from. I work in the public sector and am in favour of the pay freeze as an alternative to job cuts. What the unions say and what public sector workers think are often very different.
 
 
# kofk 2010-11-15 13:51
i wonder how much regarding donations it would take us to invest in a informitive documentary/film?
 
 
# Exile 2010-11-15 13:52
Tom

Regarding the Herald headline. They're more sleekit than that. They never actually come out and mention Labour, as that would be too close to honesty. I'd be something more like: SNP FLAGSHIP POLICY UNDER FIRE or SNP FLAGSHIP POLICY IN DISARRAY or whatever.

As the late oliver Brown once said. 'All a man needs in life is a good cause and the enmity of the Glasgow Herald, and if he has the first, the second will surely follow.'
 
 
# Exile 2010-11-15 13:53
Oops. It'd be...
 
 
# G. P. Walrus 2010-11-15 13:53
I wonder how Kerr thinks the SNP could avoid implementing the Tory cuts - UDI?

Nice of him to exclude the LibDems from his CONDEMnation.
 
 
# Fungus 2010-11-15 14:49
Quoting G. P. Walrus:
I wonder how Kerr thinks the SNP could avoid implementing the Tory cuts - UDI?



Probably by doing what Labour intend is the get into power...huge great tax increases. Poll tax up, income tax up. All to keep the trough full.
 
 
# G. P. Walrus 2010-11-15 17:43
Well if that's what he thinks, he is educationally challenged indeed. A council tax rise will certainly hurt pockets but it is actually only a small proportion of local authority spending. Most of the spending is funded from the Scottish Block Grant. Labour could try using the 3p in the pound tax-raising powers but there is no guarantee that Westminster would not just deduct any money raised from the block grant leaving us higher taxed with the same amount to spend.
 
 
# steve 2010-11-15 19:49
This block grant reduction argument is an excuse for inaction. There is no good reason to suggest that increasing tax in Scotland would cause the UK government to cut the block grant.
 
 
# G. P. Walrus 2010-11-16 08:44
Hi Steve,
When Scotland received EU infrastructure grants in the past, they were deducted in toto from the block grant.
The reason why the Fossil Fuel Levy is sitting unclaimed is that it will simply be deducted from the block grant.
When the local income tax replacement was mooted, Westminster signalled it would remove the supplement it pays to support Council Tax.
There are a couple of good reasons for you.
What good reason do you have to assume that monies raised through tax varying powers will not leas to reductions in the block grant?
 
 
# steve 2010-11-16 22:25
I think it's a risk worth taking, either we get to keep the extra raised or the tories attempt to claw it back via a reduction to the block grant.

If the government attempted to cut the budget by a billion to counteract us in scotland paying a billion more in tax, I like to think that would be the end of the union. Surely in that situation the population at large would make a stand and say we've had enough?

So the way I see it, we either get the cash to protect public services, or we get to expose a shocking move by the UK government that ought to add significant momentum to the case for fiscal autonomy/independence. Either way I can live with that.

By the way the UK government are changing the way council tax benefit works, devolving it to councils - giving them a budget and more flexibility as to how they use it, might make a local income tax in Scotland more affordable?
 
 
# J Wil 2010-11-15 13:58
Why are the people who caused these financial problems, whether in America or in the UK not in prison? It appears that many of them still go about their work as if nothing had happened, whilst whole countries and their populations are brought to their knees.
 
 
# Whatsinaname 2010-11-15 14:00
Any budding media types able to make 2-3min news broadcasts to highlight what is happening and what is getting reported and tie it in to articles on Newsnet and other sites regardless of their shade of politics. These could be posted on youtube or other social sites
 
 
# sid 2010-11-15 16:07
afternoon, whats in a name,don't know if my skills would reach that far but how about "not the 6 o'clock news" and Reporting "the truth" Scotland.
Sid.
 
 
# Whatsinaname 2010-11-15 23:38
Like the titles, the clip could focus on a headline from MSM and give the details behind the headline with corrections if (cough) necessary (searches would pick it up) If the news that is being covered in the MSM is a smokescreen for something else then it would be “whilst this is going on the MSM is reporting on this why?”

Simple animation with caricatures of key players (South Park crossed with spitting image). They could be ramped up to longer clips (see Kofk above and below) as we get nearer to May with details on how to get to sites that report the news.
 
 
# Seagetagrip 2010-11-15 14:11
I wonder how long it will take the mods on Brians blog to spot wee bit of p... taking.
Any bets!
 
 
# kofk 2010-11-15 14:16
whatsinaname
i agree, your definitly on to something there, as i posted earlier even an hour long docu film on why Scottish Independence is a must, and informing people how they have been lied to over the years and why. Surely we could all help fund and promote it, even pass it around freinds and family even work mates. i,think it would really help get the truth out there...anybody?
 
 
# tom 2010-11-15 14:46
MacGillicuddy: Dylan, as ever, nails it.
Exile: I'm sure you're right about sleekitness. Oliver Brown, a good one but who he?
Incidentally, McWhirter was firing on all cylinders in yesterday's Herald.
 
 
# Exile 2010-11-15 15:16
Tom

Oliver Brown was a very colourful nationalist of a previous generation. He was a teacher of modern languages, taught my father French and Spanish (I think) at Queen's Park school in Glasgow in the '30s, and was still giving private lessons (as a pensioner presumably) in German at least in the '70s in Milngavie. He was, as I understand it, behind the twinning of Milngavie with Baugé in France, the sight of a famous victory by a Scottish army, who halted the English advance and saved Frabce's bacon during the 100 years' war (I think in 1421). He always wore the kilt and was an SNP candidate in Dumbarton and elsewhere in the days when they used to get roughed up by Labour thugs.

Among his many attributes, OB coined a large selection of stinging anecdotes, like calling the BBC the Anglosaxophone, or recounting how a shiver ran across the opposition (Labour) benches at Westminster desperately seeking a spine to run up.
 
 
# Legerwood 2010-11-15 15:06
Quote: "Labour have responded by accepting there has to be pay restraint but launching an attack on the SNP proposals arguing that it is not the Scottish Government’s job to implement such measures."

Just what does Labour think their job is? They don't think it is their job to vote foR a price curb on alcohol. They do not think they should be supporting policies that will save people's jobs so what are Labour for? Why are we paying them when they will not do the job for which they were elected?

There seems to be something about the word 'freeze' that gets to Labour. They are also against the Council Tax freeze. Last night on one of the nes broadcasts one of the Unison leaders was interviewed and he said the councils should be free tofraise council tax because it benefited the rich more than anyone else! These people do not live in the real world.
 
 
# Exile 2010-11-15 15:25
Legerwood

I have a feeling Labour's idea was that the Scottish Parliament would just be a fig leaf. It wasn't supposed to anything really important, just keep the nationalist 'menace' at bay. Hence their total panic in 2007 when a real government replaced the pretendy one they had with the LibDems.
 
 
# Legerwood 2010-11-15 16:32
I would agree with you there. A real bummer for Labour when the Scots did not stick to the script.
 
 
# steve 2010-11-15 19:55
The council tax freeze has been fairly widely welcomed, and has certainly reduced the amount of opposition to the council tax, although I'm not sure if that was the aim given the SNP's ambition to replace it with a local income tax.

But in terms of targetting resources, it is fairly inefficient. Even those in favour of the freeze can't deny that a fifth of the money spent (so this year around £40 million) is handed back to the DWP as they save on council tax benefit, a council tax freeze is also a council tax benefit freeze. It follows that this freeze doesn't help the poorest as they get council tax benefit. It is also fair to say that given no strong correlation between ability to pay and council tax band of your home, some people are getting much needed assistance, but probably just as many are getting a tax break they don't need.
 
 
# Old Smokey 2010-11-15 15:31
What are Andy Kerr's qualifications?
I looked it up ; a BA in Social Sciences at Glasgow Caledonian University
So well qualified then to discuss economics then - NOT
 
 
# ubinworryinmasheep 2010-11-15 15:59
Old Smokey ..you think thats bad ..check out Osborne .. A degree in modern history, a date entry clerk and a stint at Selfridges !
 
 
# Exile 2010-11-15 16:07
Hey! Leave us holders of history degrees alone, we know everything... NOT.
The trouble is, there are no guarantees. It doesn't matter how many economics degrees or whatever someone has, they can still be totally incompetent. I'm surprised Andy Kerr even got through primary school, though.
 
 
# ubinworryinmasheep 2010-11-15 16:20
Sorry Exile .. he also has a Master of Arts too. The big problem is that although Osborne is in charge he is not pulling the strings. Big business has infiltrated the government far to much ie the 4 big accountancy firms all have seconded people to the government to advise on policies..yet these 4 big companies sell tax avoidance schemes to other companies so defrauding the country of vast sums of loot. Check out the uproar about Vodaphone ..nearly 5 billion they have managed to avoid thanks to a corrupt HMRC boss. Thats why there was the riots 2 weeks ago.. screw the poor thats the Tory moto !!!
 
 
# Exile 2010-11-15 16:35
Indeed, ubin. But as far as I can see that's essentially the policy of all three tory parties, although the LibDem variety do it 'ever so nicely', and the Labour tories pretend they're not doing it at all. The whole globalisation project (particularly the free movement of capital) is essentially a conspiracy by the rich against everybosdy else, and the only defence against it is a properly functioning democratic nation state that can effectively restrain the rampages of free capital. My own view is that the only way to get the City of London off everyone's backs is for the people of the UK's constituent nations to set up real nation states on these islands (like most of the rest of Europe did a long time ago). For Scots, the only sensible game in town is our own nation state with the politicians responsible only to the people of Scotland.
 
 
# Bugger the Panda 2010-11-15 17:28
If he has an Oxford degree, he can apply after a couple of years and have it upgraded to an MA, honestly!

My daughter studied there and could have done the same but refused, although she was entitled. She went on to do a proper MA and felt that MA, MA after her name was nuts.

I think this system is still in place but not sure.

Bugger the Panda MA (Oxon)
 
 
# bmc875 2010-11-15 17:48
In the late 80's, one could apply for an upgrade to an MA if two criteria were met:

1. Gainfully employed for two years.
2. The forwarding of a Five Pound Note.

Simples!
 
 
# Old Smokey 2010-11-15 16:11
It must have been the stint at Selfridges (Shoes dept) that qualfied him
 
 
# DonaldMhor 2010-11-15 16:24
Quoting Old Smokey:
What are Andy Kerr's qualifications?
I looked it up ; a BA in Social Sciences at Glasgow Caledonian University
So well qualified then to discuss economics then - NOT



He was allegedly a very skilled cleansing operative outreach worker (bin man) in Glasgows Mafiosi cooncil in his time. Although he prefers to be known as a former senior officer in the Land Services Department.

His incandescent spluttering and incoherent babbling would earn him a place on stage at The Kings during the panto season. Thanks to him and his PFI casino policies the Scottish NHS is starved of funds through having to make huge payments every month before a scalpel is brandished. Some 13% of budget goes to service PFI. Overall, for 2010/11 the Scottish Government has to spend £27.7 billion on PFI, thanks to Labour and Kerrs incompetence and financial illiteracy.

They must never be allowed to hide that.
 
 
# Legerwood 2010-11-15 16:37
Are you sure about the PFI Figure that you quote?

I saw figures for servicing PFI costs for Education for the last financial year of £244 million and for the NHS the PFI costs were about £700 million. Stillconsiderab le but your figure is about the whole of the block grant for this year.
 
 
# J Wil 2010-11-15 17:28
Two weeks ago a compadre of Kerr's on South Lanarkshire council tried to justify Labour's spending policy on schools and hospitals by quoting figures for the money that was saved versus the money outlayed for the construction and servicing of these projects. His justification only mentioned PPFI not PFI.
 
 
# Bugger the Panda 2010-11-15 17:24



He was allegedly a very skilled cleansing operative outreach worker (bin man) in Glasgows Mafiosi cooncil in his time. Although he prefers to be known as a former senior officer in the Land Services Department.

His incandescent spluttering and incoherent babbling would earn him a place on stage at The Kings during the panto season.


As the rear end of the Panto Horse?

Elmer Fudd and Dobbin, jeeze what an incisive set of heid bummers
 
 
# Scottish republic 2010-11-15 16:49
Quote:
Labour have responded by accepting there has to be pay restraint but launching an attack on the SNP proposals arguing that it is not the Scottish Government’s job to implement such measures.


Or, when translated into human talk means, we want to be able to make sure our near gangster like grip on council workers remains a smiling Labour mafia.
 
 
# Scottish republic 2010-11-15 16:52
Quote:
Unions in Scotland are reported to be planning to reject the 12 month pay-freeze proposals.


Instead of that they should free their members from this crippling union.
 
 
# rog_rocks 2010-11-15 16:57
Being a public sector worker myself; I have to agree that I would rather accept a pay freeze than be made redundant.

So not only will I be voting for SNP in the coming election due to my total agreement with their main aim of Independence for Scotland and the problems that would solve but also because their policy of a pay freeze for public sector workers; it's just simply common sense.

Andy Kerr in my view is just typically Labour and because of his hatred for the Scottish party; will just oppose for the sake of opposing again; he seems to have a big chip on his shoulder.

I think of Labour being returned to power after the next SGE as a worst case scenario.
 
 
# ubinworryinmasheep 2010-11-15 17:08
I work for a private company and we had the choice no pay rise or 100 people without a job. We accepted the pay freeze and now 2 years later we are getting our pay rise as the company is getting back on its feet. It makes no sense for Kerr to have this attitude. Labour are trying to make out they are the public sectors best mates without accepting it is their fault in the first place.
 
 
# Marian 2010-11-15 17:16
The thought of Labour returning to power at Holyrood and getting their hands on Scotland's finances again should send shivers down the spines of all Scots.

Labour's answer to everything is to throw money at it and either borrow or raise taxes to pay for it.

Their economics are those of the madhouse and is the sole reason why the UK economy is in such a dire mess today.

Labour should never ever again be allowed anywhere near the control of spending and taxation if Scotland has any chance of prospering.

Labour financial incompetence and mismanagement are the very reason the UK and consequently Scotland's finances are presently in such dire straits.

The problem was caused by poor government by Labour borrowing recklessly and allowing the rest of us to do the same.

Control and supervision of the UK's banks is entirely a UK government matter, and the Labour UK government totally failed to ensure that the UK's banks were behaving responsibly in that respect.

Tory and LibDems voters should think twice before they place their vote next May.

Do they really want to vote Tory or LibDem in the knowledge that doing so will almost surely let Labour into power in Scotland again?

They should vote SNP instead as they are the only political party that can defeat Labour at the polls in Scotland.

Voters in Scotland should summon the courage to cut through the fog of lies and misinformation that Labour with their Main Stream Media acolytes will spread throughout Scotland about the SNP before the Holyrood elections and once again reject Labour that have brought economic ruin and cuts to Scotland.

There is only one way to avoid the monumental economic catastrophe that Labour plans for Scotland and that is to vote for the SNP.
 
 
# Alx1 2010-11-15 18:11
Good slogan to the LibDem’s & Tory voters there Marian, ’don’t let Labour into power through the back door' vote SNP :-)

Off Topic; I read in today’s Retard (Costa’s honest) that our favourite TV station bbc Scotland, has been using our money (well some of us) £1,000,000 over a period of 2 years for taxi’s for their guests.
To be fair it was commented on by a Labour througher who was probably trying to get himself noticed.
The fact is, bbc Scotland is squandering money that doesn’t belong to them.

On another story in the Retard, I see Richard school boy Baker is still going on about the TV’s for cons.
It seem that they are to get a 19” TV with built in DVD player!
Now forgive me, but I’m sure that’s not going to cost much per TV set at today’s prices and the figure of £250,000 is still being quoted.
Although it’s has been pointed out to RB that the cost of giving these sets to prisoners pays for itself easily, Richard Baker went on to say that it’s the tax payer who is giving the cons the money in the first place!
Is he now saying that Labour’s previous policy of giving pocket money to cons was and is now wrong?
 
 
# sid 2010-11-15 19:43
evening Alx1 , yep over a million on taxi's for their guests ,presenters and other staff as well. do you get your employer to pay for a taxi to your work??
No didn't think so.
 
 
# Holebender 2010-11-16 14:27
Please stop using that word which is only ever used as a derogatory term for a person with learning difficulties! It's disgusting and has no place in an intelligent person's vocabulary.

May I suggest "Rectum" as an alternative?
 
 
# Bugger the Panda 2010-11-15 17:33
Off topic, looks like Greece is well and truly stuffed and are making no real progress in redressing their budget deficit.

The markets must have a sniff of this and would explain the moves against Ireland and Portugal.

Portuguese PM has said that if he cannot achieve a satisfactory consensus on reducing their budget deficit, they may be forced to leave the Euro---scaremongering?
 
 
# Gill 2010-11-16 00:39
serious
 
 
# enneffess 2010-11-15 18:55
Andy Kerr is my MSP (or one of them). I've contacted him in the past with regards to issues with the Council and Scotrail, and he was first class.

Then I tackled him on the cuts - by the LABOUR council - to the school crossing patrols. He blamed the Scottish Government cuts.

This is the same man who was going to resign if Hairmyres Hospital was threatened with closure (I have that on very good authority).

What happened that made the Labour Party more important that the safety of children?

And his latest statement is total, utter mince.
 
 
# J Wil 2010-11-15 21:41
Perhaps you should write back suggesting he is lying and remind him that there is already a Labour MP who has been thrown out of the party for telling lies about his political opponent!
 
 
# DonaldMhor 2010-11-15 19:55
Legerwood 2010-11-15 16:37

Sorry that £27.7 billion is over the next 30 years.
 
 
# Legerwood 2010-11-15 22:10
I thought so. But either way it is an awful lot for something you don't own at the end of it.
Cheers.
 
 
# steve 2010-11-15 20:10
Hello all, in my capacity as a critical friend, I think the SNP need to be really careful that the Labour attempts to brand them as the same as the tories and responsible for cuts don't stick.

As a fairly neutral observer, let me tell you that I fully support fiscal autonomy (proper - not calman which is rubbish) or independence.

However, given that we're very unlikely to get either in the next 4 years, what exactly are the SNP offering that is any different from the tories?

Look at SNP achievements and policies such as more police, council tax freeze, business rates cuts, even ring fencing the NHS, these are policies they share with the tories, and in the parliament they have relied heavily on the tories to get budgets passed.

There are differences of course, but I think all the parties need to show how electing them next May will result in something different from just implementing CONDEM cuts.

Andy Kerr said in the past that Labour's problem was thet they became managerial in power, the SNP need to be careful they don't fall into the same trap.
 
 
# Holebender 2010-11-16 14:32
What else can you do if your only job is doling out the pocket money? Any administration under the current arrangements is pretty much doomed to become little more than managerial.
 
 
# steve 2010-11-16 17:16
I think there's quite a lot that could be done other than just administer the tory cuts for them. The unfortunate situation seems to be that it is in the interests of the next scottish government to implement the cuts and blame the uk government. If you're labour you use the cuts to bolster the case for a labour uk government, if you're the snp you use it to bolster the case for independence. If you're a vulnerable person relying on public services, bad luck.
 
 
# Mad Jock McMad 2010-11-16 00:03
Evening, just breaking my Newsnet cherry but in is interesting that the Herald has let slip Jim Murphy's excessive use of chauffeur driven cars to the tune of some £107,000 ....

I wonder if his pal 'the Glasgow gang boss' who was at a Murphy Fund Raiser earlier this year had a hurl or two in one to Parkhead where the very man Murphy claims not to know or have dealings with but has been seen sharing the same hospitality box with Murphy and Dr Reid - a line the local East Refrewshire paper ran but was never taken up by the 'proper media#.

The silence is deafening on this but the Herald runs a couple of non stories on Kerr's attack (dead sheep mk5) and Swinney saying he is against the non fiscal autonomy on current offer from the team that brought you Calman's Report'.... SNP opposes plans to give Scotland more 'fiscal powers'.

I for one would like to know if we can request a judicial review on our right as Scots to rid ourselves of rulers who do not act in Scotland's best interests - the Declaration that gave us that right is the one that gave us a codified 'Scots Law' and as far as I am aware is still in effect in Scotland and was not negated by the Treaty of Union as Scots Law has remained sovereign in Scotland so the Declaration of Arbroath must still
be law.

Maybe that's why Westminster is running scared of a referendum in Scotland?
 

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