Sunday, 04 March 2012 00:01
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By a Newsnet reporter
Labour health spokesperson Jackie Baillie has been accused of making claims against an NHS hospital for which there was no proof.
Speaking at the Labour conference yesterday, Ms Baillie claimed that in one Greater Glasgow and Clyde hospital patients had been forced to “share blankets” because of cuts.
However Ms Baillie’s claims were immediately called into question by a spokesman for the area’s Health Board who claimed they were untrue and that the claim had been proven false weeks ago.
A spokeswoman for Greater Glasgow and Clyde Health Board said: “This matter was raised with us a few weeks ago and we were able to provide proof that there was no truth in this claim.”
She added: “Extra blankets are available in all our hospitals, as and when patients need them.”
Jackie Baillie had claimed that a number of constituents had contacted her with concerns about the Royal Alexandria Hospital in Paisley.
Speaking at her party’s conference, Ms Baillie said: “In one hospital, in Greater Glasgow and Clyde, patients are even having to share blankets because of the cuts.
“The truth is, the fault lies with the SNP because even in times of plenty, they have underfunded the NHS.”
A spokeperson for Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon accused the Labour MSP of misleading people and said;
“Jackie Baillie should be ashamed of herself for talking down Scotland’s health service in this way and misleading people – the health board provided proof weeks ago that there is no truth in this claim.”
This is the second time in two months that claims by the same Labour MSP have been called into question.
On January 3rd Ms Baillie faced calls to apologise after a press release, issued by her and attacking the SNP’s record on hospital infections, was exposed as being out of date and used data from a time when Labour were in office.
The press release issued by Ms Baillie claimed that official figures showed that Scotland was now the “superbug capital of Europe”.
Ms Baillie claimed that research from the Scottish Parliament Information Centre showed that Scotland had the highest rate of bugs in Europe, hitting 9.5 per cent.
Speaking on BBC Scotland, Ms Baillie said: “Being the superbug capital of Europe is an accolade no country wants.
“These figures show that, despite recent progress, the SNP government still has a long way to go in the battle against healthcare-associated infections.”
However, it emerged that the data had been collated in 2005/6, at a time when Labour were in power at Holyrood.
Official statistics released in October last year showed that cases of MRSA and MSSA were in fact at their lowest level since records began.
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2012-03-04 01:08
Ms Baillie is a proven liar – who is also apparently unable to research any of the fantasist claims she has made recently; Or perhaps I’m being kind to imply she is only guilty of not bothering to check – the alternative can only be that she just goes ahead and knowingly lies.
Which is it Ms Baillie, Lazy or Liar?
Which is it Ms Baillie, Lazy or Liar?
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2012-03-04 16:58
Quoting Hing em high:
In theory she could; but since Ms Baillie strikes me as a person who is incapable of doing two things at once I would have to say it is still either/or:-)
Why cant she be both brusque?
In theory she could; but since Ms Baillie strikes me as a person who is incapable of doing two things at once I would have to say it is still either/or:-)
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2012-03-04 14:02
Quoting brusque:
Pathological liar did I spell pathological right I would hate to be wrong in that .
Ms Baillie is a proven liar – who is also apparently unable to research any of the fantasist claims she has made recently; Or perhaps I’m being kind to imply she is only guilty of not bothering to check – the alternative can only be that she just goes ahead and knowingly lies.
Which is it Ms Baillie, Lazy or Liar?
Pathological liar did I spell pathological right I would hate to be wrong in that .
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2012-03-04 17:06
Quoting brusque:
How does she imagine the alleged practice would be enacted? Would patients push their beds together? Burning their free prescriptions in the day room to get extra warmth?
Labour and Lib Dems reduced capacity in NHS Scotland; that is, hospital and ward closures. Were all these surplus blankets donated to Milawe in return for a Chiefdom?
The MOD policy for troops sent abroad to fight in legal or illegal wars is ‘with’ the ‘hot bed’ principle. The off duty combatant sleeps in the same bed as the soldier he is about to relieve…… NO, NOT ‘hello sailor’….. just operational efficiency. They even share body armour which is not on personal issue.
This is the desperation of the unionist attack.
This is the one time so far the SNP caveat has no place. “Doing Scotland down”. Time to call a liar a liar and say…… “Sue me”.
Trouble is, when the MSM back all unionist untruths and spin, distort all reporting as an SNP failure…… we will always get the headline like this.
Ms Baillie is a proven liar – who is also apparently unable to research any of the fantasist claims she has made recently; Or perhaps I’m being kind to imply she is only guilty of not bothering to check – the alternative can only be that she just goes ahead and knowingly lies.
Which is it Ms Baillie, Lazy or Liar?
How does she imagine the alleged practice would be enacted? Would patients push their beds together? Burning their free prescriptions in the day room to get extra warmth?
Labour and Lib Dems reduced capacity in NHS Scotland; that is, hospital and ward closures. Were all these surplus blankets donated to Milawe in return for a Chiefdom?
The MOD policy for troops sent abroad to fight in legal or illegal wars is ‘with’ the ‘hot bed’ principle. The off duty combatant sleeps in the same bed as the soldier he is about to relieve…… NO, NOT ‘hello sailor’….. just operational efficiency. They even share body armour which is not on personal issue.
This is the desperation of the unionist attack.
This is the one time so far the SNP caveat has no place. “Doing Scotland down”. Time to call a liar a liar and say…… “Sue me”.
Trouble is, when the MSM back all unionist untruths and spin, distort all reporting as an SNP failure…… we will always get the headline like this.
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2012-03-04 01:12
It seems really sad that the opposition in Scotland are reduced to this sad level of incompetence.
Any Government needs to be held to account for their performance because nothing is perfect, and things can always be improved.
Sadly, the thing most in need of improvement in Scotland seems to be the opposition.
Any Government needs to be held to account for their performance because nothing is perfect, and things can always be improved.
Sadly, the thing most in need of improvement in Scotland seems to be the opposition.
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2012-03-04 02:28
This is true Oldnat…
Yet it could be worse up here:
guardian.co.uk/…/…
Revealed: government plans for police privatisation
West Midlands and Surrey police offer £1.5bn contract under which private firms may investigate crime and detain suspects
So how would you hold a government to account if they didnt provide any of your services???
Yet it could be worse up here:
guardian.co.uk/…/…
Revealed: government plans for police privatisation
West Midlands and Surrey police offer £1.5bn contract under which private firms may investigate crime and detain suspects
So how would you hold a government to account if they didnt provide any of your services???
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2012-03-04 14:04
Quoting Sleekit:
would this mean I could hire my own police to keep vandal and vagabonds at bay.
This is true Oldnat…
Yet it could be worse up here:
guardian.co.uk/…/…
Revealed: government plans for police privatisation
West Midlands and Surrey police offer £1.5bn contract under which private firms may investigate crime and detain suspects
So how would you hold a government to account if they didnt provide any of your services???
would this mean I could hire my own police to keep vandal and vagabonds at bay.
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2012-03-04 06:48
Fact is Oldnat that most people in the Unionist parties with any semblence of talent or moderate ability dont want to serve in Holyrood , they see that the money and career opportunities lie in Westminster where “the real power lies and real decisions are made”. Regarding most of the Unionist MSPs as ma faither would say are “Jumped up Cooncillors” and the leftovers not considered worthy of a Westminster seat. It would be interesting to know how many have tried and failed to be selected by their respective parties as Westminster Parliamentry Candidates. Maybe NNS could do research and story on that.
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2012-03-04 01:25
This whole story demonstrates that she has no idea about actually being on the frontline of the NHS.She is being economical with the truth.What she is claiming is impossible.
I’ve been a nurse now for nearly 30 years and never,never has this ever happend.
I’ve been a nurse now for nearly 30 years and never,never has this ever happend.
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2012-03-04 01:34
just recently discharged from RAH, Paisley, where i had my appendics removed.
whilst lying in my hospital bed one night, i felt a slight chill. consequently, i asked the nurse for an extra blanket, which was dutifully supplied. later that same evening i requested another blanket, which i received.
make of that what you will,
whilst lying in my hospital bed one night, i felt a slight chill. consequently, i asked the nurse for an extra blanket, which was dutifully supplied. later that same evening i requested another blanket, which i received.
make of that what you will,
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2012-03-04 14:14
Quoting Holebender:
Maybe a cuddle from Jackie would have been better
Maybe she was stealing them from other patients’ beds… 😉
Maybe a cuddle from Jackie would have been better
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2012-03-04 01:47
Hands up, I’m an ignoramus! We have a parliament, we have a majority SNP government and we have had two labour ladies (Lamont and Baillie) spouting distortions. In the first instance, about a fictitious version of a rape and in the second (from a serial NHS guff spouter) about insufficient blankets. Now this is where my ignorance cuts in, why, when one has clearly mislead parliament and the other is misleading the public, is there no challenge in the parliament? Where are the SNP MSP’s when this tosh is shown to be just that? Where is the presiding officer when the parliament is being misdirected? Why do we not see them howling? Answers please (and don’t bother to blame the MSM they are beyond the pale already)?
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2012-03-04 01:50
Fortunately, the SNP doesn’t “howl”. Sensible refutations of Baillie’s absurd comments are quoted in the article.
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2012-03-04 02:08
Oh good…so the MSPs will all stay quiet and let our parliament be mislead because there are sensible refutations in the article?
You can howl sensibly.
You can howl sensibly.
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2012-03-04 02:18
Why do you assume that the SNP MSPs are silent on this issue? Baillie’s absurd comments were only made yesterday.
It’s also the case that sometimes political points are so transparently stupid that for a “collective howl” from SNP MSPs would give such rubbish more attention than it deserves.
It’s also the case that sometimes political points are so transparently stupid that for a “collective howl” from SNP MSPs would give such rubbish more attention than it deserves.
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2012-03-04 02:27
I assume they are silent because I neither see or hear anything otherwise but I’m open to the idea that stuff goes on behind the scenes…..
She (and others) have a track record that needs to be nailed in the parliament in the full public view (my opnion).
Perhaps if there was a collective howl then people would be less likely to engage in misleading statements and comments.
She (and others) have a track record that needs to be nailed in the parliament in the full public view (my opnion).
Perhaps if there was a collective howl then people would be less likely to engage in misleading statements and comments.
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2012-03-04 02:58
Unfortunately, the political system is based on self-regulation. Politicians are supposed to behave honourably.
When making a complaint on the behaviour of a MSP, the conduct complained about would amount to a breach of the Standing Orders, the Code of Conduct or the Interests of Members of the Scottish Parliament Act 2006 (asp 12).
In other words: “Members shall at all times conduct themselves in an orderly manner and, in particular, shall not conduct themselves in a manner which would constitute a criminal offence or contempt of court.”
To put it short: Lying is not a criminal offense.
I would love to hear from a legal eagle, about the chances of the Health Board for difamation, though.
When making a complaint on the behaviour of a MSP, the conduct complained about would amount to a breach of the Standing Orders, the Code of Conduct or the Interests of Members of the Scottish Parliament Act 2006 (asp 12).
In other words: “Members shall at all times conduct themselves in an orderly manner and, in particular, shall not conduct themselves in a manner which would constitute a criminal offence or contempt of court.”
To put it short: Lying is not a criminal offense.
I would love to hear from a legal eagle, about the chances of the Health Board for difamation, though.
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2012-03-04 14:21
Quoting oldnat:
Transparent to some O.N. but those who are undecided my just believe the Lamonts and Bailys any statement made in parliament should be accurate or challenged by the presiding officer.
Why do you assume that the SNP MSPs are silent on this issue? Baillie’s absurd comments were only made yesterday.
It’s also the case that sometimes political points are so transparently stupid that for a “collective howl” from SNP MSPs would give such rubbish more attention than it deserves.
Transparent to some O.N. but those who are undecided my just believe the Lamonts and Bailys any statement made in parliament should be accurate or challenged by the presiding officer.
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2012-03-04 10:02
Quoting Robabody:
Like you I am fed up with the lies that seem to get out that appear to be unchallenged publicly.
Can the SNP not run a You Tube TV channel to refute these lies, and have planted questions in Holyrood. For example no attempt has ever been made, to my knowledge, to hold Lamont to account publicly for her false rape allegations. WHY?
Oh good…so the MSPs will all stay quiet and let our parliament be mislead because there are sensible refutations in the article?
You can howl sensibly.
Like you I am fed up with the lies that seem to get out that appear to be unchallenged publicly.
Can the SNP not run a You Tube TV channel to refute these lies, and have planted questions in Holyrood. For example no attempt has ever been made, to my knowledge, to hold Lamont to account publicly for her false rape allegations. WHY?
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2012-03-04 14:16
Quoting Robabody:
Yes it is about time this was challenged if Holyrood has any credibility. It has been allowed to go on far too long.
Hands up, I’m an ignoramus! We have a parliament, we have a majority SNP government and we have had two labour ladies (Lamont and Baillie) spouting distortions. In the first instance, about a fictitious version of a rape and in the second (from a serial NHS guff spouter) about insufficient blankets. Now this is where my ignorance cuts in, why, when one has clearly mislead parliament and the other is misleading the public, is there no challenge in the parliament? Where are the SNP MSP’s when this tosh is shown to be just that? Where is the presiding officer when the parliament is being misdirected? Why do we not see them howling? Answers please (and don’t bother to blame the MSM they are beyond the pale already)?
Yes it is about time this was challenged if Holyrood has any credibility. It has been allowed to go on far too long.
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2012-03-04 02:24
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2012-03-04 02:46
Well one thing is for sure about Brit Labour they wont be volunteering to cut thier Wastemonster expenses or numbers of useless MPs!
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2012-03-04 03:20
Islegard, rewind on that please.
Are you saying that in today’s world in the Scottish NHS, we are lucky to get good care and that we should not expect our treatment to be like with a Bupa type service or we that we need to pay extra for it like in Denmark?
Are you seriously telling that we have poor service delivery in this country?
If that’s the case, then let’s get onto it. It’s certainly not been my experience over the past ten years, but if what Jester is complaining about and now you’re information is also coming to the fore, lets’s get it sorted. This Scottish NHS is a shining light throughout the world and where it’s being let down, I personally want it put right – tout suite!
Are you saying that in today’s world in the Scottish NHS, we are lucky to get good care and that we should not expect our treatment to be like with a Bupa type service or we that we need to pay extra for it like in Denmark?
Are you seriously telling that we have poor service delivery in this country?
If that’s the case, then let’s get onto it. It’s certainly not been my experience over the past ten years, but if what Jester is complaining about and now you’re information is also coming to the fore, lets’s get it sorted. This Scottish NHS is a shining light throughout the world and where it’s being let down, I personally want it put right – tout suite!
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2012-03-04 15:57
As others have said, Baillie is a serial s**t stirrer who has a history of not checking her facts before opening her oversized mouth. What really gets me here though is that the press headlines the complaint and buries the refutal way down in the small print.
I also want to say that I’ve needed what I’d reckon is more than my fair share of medical treatment in the last few years and I have nothing but 100% praise for every individual that has been involved with my care. From the cleaners who have kept everything so obviously spotlessly clean right up to the consultants who have treated me. To all of them a GREAT BIG THANK YOU.
I also want to say that I’ve needed what I’d reckon is more than my fair share of medical treatment in the last few years and I have nothing but 100% praise for every individual that has been involved with my care. From the cleaners who have kept everything so obviously spotlessly clean right up to the consultants who have treated me. To all of them a GREAT BIG THANK YOU.
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2012-03-04 02:47
I just love the slogan; “Fighting For Scotland” so long as London always comes first, second and third!
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2012-03-04 03:15
ackie Baillie should simply back up her claims with factual evidence or just shut up.
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2012-03-04 03:19
Hilarious Eddie Barnes
La Lament “smack of leadership”
I kid you not:
scotsman.com/…/…
While he finish saying: “She has a big Salmond problem. Yesterday, Lamont spent long sections of her speech attempting to bring the First Minister down to size.
Next weekend, when Salmond speaks before the SNP conference, it is a good bet he will not even feel the need to mention her.
That highlights the gulf that exists between them”
Also, Hugh Henry recognizes labourites are not ordinary working people
In a diferent article: scotsman.com/…/… Eddie gives another pearl of wisdom from his SNP High Source:
The Queen may not realise it, but SNP figures have identified the Monarch as their secret weapon in the referendum campaign.
La Lament “smack of leadership”
I kid you not:
scotsman.com/…/…
While he finish saying: “She has a big Salmond problem. Yesterday, Lamont spent long sections of her speech attempting to bring the First Minister down to size.
Next weekend, when Salmond speaks before the SNP conference, it is a good bet he will not even feel the need to mention her.
That highlights the gulf that exists between them”
Also, Hugh Henry recognizes labourites are not ordinary working people
In a diferent article: scotsman.com/…/… Eddie gives another pearl of wisdom from his SNP High Source:
The Queen may not realise it, but SNP figures have identified the Monarch as their secret weapon in the referendum campaign.
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2012-03-04 03:50
Poor Jackie. She was moved to tears by the leaderine’s speech. Either that or she knew after it that all was lost as far as the Labour Party are concerned.
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2012-03-04 05:30
I feel sorry for the NHS staff that have to put up with the genrally arrogant attitude of their cliental!
When I was in hospital for an op, the nurses said that it was rare for anyone to be polite with them!
We have to get away from the Anglo mentality of sueing with the politicians backing them because it is correct
When I was in hospital for an op, the nurses said that it was rare for anyone to be polite with them!
We have to get away from the Anglo mentality of sueing with the politicians backing them because it is correct
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2012-03-04 07:04
I have rheumatoid as well as osteo arthritis and it is not too long ago (pre Nicola) in Glasgow that it was the best part of a year to get into see an orthopaedic consultant. This was one of the benefits of the union. Labour politicians with their pals on all the health boards (or whatever they are called now) and nothing done for the patients. Glasgow is such a dump (though with style) thanks to Scottish Labour.
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2012-03-04 08:12
It’s same old game – It does not matter if it’s true. Jackie Baille makes the charge in a forum that will get a wide distribution. We may know that it is false but the health board report will not appear in the MSM (or it will appear on page 22 at the bottom).
“Everything is going downhill because of the SNP and Alex Salmond.” this will be the campaign
Use your own eyes – Look at Inverclyde as an example of what Labour has done for Scotland. A once thriving community let down.
The Labour solid block sent to Westminster for generations did little for Scotland or to protect Scotland.
Jackie Baillie is a typical member of the Labour machine with no interest in the people of Scotland. Self and party first hidden under the cloak of claiming the mantle of a once great party.
“Everything is going downhill because of the SNP and Alex Salmond.” this will be the campaign
Use your own eyes – Look at Inverclyde as an example of what Labour has done for Scotland. A once thriving community let down.
The Labour solid block sent to Westminster for generations did little for Scotland or to protect Scotland.
Jackie Baillie is a typical member of the Labour machine with no interest in the people of Scotland. Self and party first hidden under the cloak of claiming the mantle of a once great party.
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2012-03-04 10:21
Jackie Baillie, the lady has form. Its all we need to know about any statement she makes clootie.
Not long now.
Not long now.
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2012-03-04 08:48
In an article in the Sunday Herald she (Ms Baillie) admits she got it wrong
“She said: “The SNP can’t even get the basics right. In one hospital in Greater Glasgow and Clyde patients are even having to share blankets because of the cuts.” Baillie later admitted that this claim was wrong: no patient had been left without their own blanket, only that some patients wanted more blankets.”
heraldscotland.com/…/…
“She said: “The SNP can’t even get the basics right. In one hospital in Greater Glasgow and Clyde patients are even having to share blankets because of the cuts.” Baillie later admitted that this claim was wrong: no patient had been left without their own blanket, only that some patients wanted more blankets.”
heraldscotland.com/…/…
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2012-03-04 09:49
There is never,never gonna be a time that there are No complaints about the NHS.
It’s a huge organisation and things inevitably go wrong.
But,look at the NHS in Scotland and see the real changes for good in the last few years that the SNP have been involved.
Look at the NHS in the rest of the UK and be afraid.In reality,it shouldn’t even be called the NHS down there anymore.
If anyone has a complaint,I absolutely would advise them to complain.It certainly keeps the service on it’s mettle.
Bad service in a restaurant? Do you complain? Of course you do.It’s a service that is paid for by you just the same!
It’s a huge organisation and things inevitably go wrong.
But,look at the NHS in Scotland and see the real changes for good in the last few years that the SNP have been involved.
Look at the NHS in the rest of the UK and be afraid.In reality,it shouldn’t even be called the NHS down there anymore.
If anyone has a complaint,I absolutely would advise them to complain.It certainly keeps the service on it’s mettle.
Bad service in a restaurant? Do you complain? Of course you do.It’s a service that is paid for by you just the same!
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2012-03-04 10:17
Quoting freeussoon:
Couldn’t agree more. Having worked in the NHS in Scotland and England I can tell you that, although things aren’t perfect our side of the border, the NHS in England is the biggest bureaucratic shambles I have ever had the displeasure of working in. The requirements of Foundation Trusts is a large part to do with the deterioration of the NHS in England. The tories and Labour in England have signed up to privatisation by the back door and the strategy seems to be one of slowly but surely. If we do the same up here it won’t be blankets we would have to worry about. In my last post (in SE England) our unit would routinely run out of basic medication such as paracetamol on a weekly basis and essential IV antibiotics every other day. Not good in an emergency care unit. One week, I remember, we ran out of disposable wash-cloths for patients to have a wash in the morning. We used towels instead then promptly ran out of towels for the rest of the shift. On contacting the coordinator to remedy the situation I got the reply (and I quote), “What the hell do you expect me to do about it??!!” You may think this is a bit extreme but situations like this happened on a near daily basis. People expect the impossible of the NHS nowadays but all staff want is the resources to do a good job.
Look at the NHS in the rest of the UK and be afraid.In reality,it shouldn’t even be called the NHS down there anymore.
Couldn’t agree more. Having worked in the NHS in Scotland and England I can tell you that, although things aren’t perfect our side of the border, the NHS in England is the biggest bureaucratic shambles I have ever had the displeasure of working in. The requirements of Foundation Trusts is a large part to do with the deterioration of the NHS in England. The tories and Labour in England have signed up to privatisation by the back door and the strategy seems to be one of slowly but surely. If we do the same up here it won’t be blankets we would have to worry about. In my last post (in SE England) our unit would routinely run out of basic medication such as paracetamol on a weekly basis and essential IV antibiotics every other day. Not good in an emergency care unit. One week, I remember, we ran out of disposable wash-cloths for patients to have a wash in the morning. We used towels instead then promptly ran out of towels for the rest of the shift. On contacting the coordinator to remedy the situation I got the reply (and I quote), “What the hell do you expect me to do about it??!!” You may think this is a bit extreme but situations like this happened on a near daily basis. People expect the impossible of the NHS nowadays but all staff want is the resources to do a good job.
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2012-03-04 09:51
Jackie is another champagne socialist who went to a £10,000 a year English public school.
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2012-03-04 10:18
I work for the NHS and I can assure Jackie Bailey that anyone making patients share blankets in an NHS hospital would be subject to a disciplinary procedure that would lead to not only dismissal from that job, but almost certainly the removal of the nurses ‘pin’ without which they would be unable to work as a nurse anywhere in the UK.
This isn’t an issue of patient comfort, it is an issue of ‘cross infection’
Just to give people an indication of how serious this is, I recently attended a mandatory training day: ‘Infection Control’ A nurse was asked to wash her hands and then her she put her hands under an ultra violet light which showed any spots that she had missed. we all then had to do the same. I have been ‘watched’ on a number of occasions over the past years washing my hands and the results have been recorded !
I work in mental health !!!
I work in England but I can assure everyone that the same level of concern about ‘cross infection’ is shared throughout the NHS.
It genuinely is a matter of life and death and the idea that any nurse would ask patients to share blankets in a medical ward is simply a lie and Jackie Bailey is indulging in the scaremongering that is now the labour parties politics of choice.
In other words, she is a disgusting liar !
This isn’t an issue of patient comfort, it is an issue of ‘cross infection’
Just to give people an indication of how serious this is, I recently attended a mandatory training day: ‘Infection Control’ A nurse was asked to wash her hands and then her she put her hands under an ultra violet light which showed any spots that she had missed. we all then had to do the same. I have been ‘watched’ on a number of occasions over the past years washing my hands and the results have been recorded !
I work in mental health !!!
I work in England but I can assure everyone that the same level of concern about ‘cross infection’ is shared throughout the NHS.
It genuinely is a matter of life and death and the idea that any nurse would ask patients to share blankets in a medical ward is simply a lie and Jackie Bailey is indulging in the scaremongering that is now the labour parties politics of choice.
In other words, she is a disgusting liar !
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2012-03-04 11:17
Quoting patrickotic:
The only way patients could share blankets is if they were in bed together!
I work for the NHS and I can assure Jackie Bailey that anyone making patients share blankets in an NHS hospital would be subject to a disciplinary procedure that would lead to not only dismissal from that job, but almost certainly the removal of the nurses ‘pin’ without which they would be unable to work as a nurse anywhere in the UK.
This isn’t an issue of patient comfort, it is an issue of ‘cross infection’
Just to give people an indication of how serious this is, I recently attended a mandatory training day: ‘Infection Control’ A nurse was asked to wash her hands and then her she put her hands under an ultra violet light which showed any spots that she had missed. we all then had to do the same. I have been ‘watched’ on a number of occasions over the past years washing my hands and the results have been recorded !
I work in mental health !!!
I work in England but I can assure everyone that the same level of concern about ‘cross infection’ is shared throughout the NHS.
It genuinely is a matter of life and death and the idea that any nurse would ask patients to share blankets in a medical ward is simply a lie and Jackie Bailey is indulging in the scaremongering that is now the labour parties politics of choice.
In other words, she is a disgusting liar !
The only way patients could share blankets is if they were in bed together!
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2012-03-04 10:49
Will supine Scottish press to take her to task for these numerous lies.
Will Bailie be asked is she prefers the English NHS reforms or a Scottish Health Service in an independent Scotland?
Will Bailie be asked is she prefers the English NHS reforms or a Scottish Health Service in an independent Scotland?
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2012-03-04 10:50
The Labour party for all there bletting plan to privatise the NHS, they started in England and the Tory party are following the same line.The Scottish Goverment are doing the opposite, who do you trust with Scotlands health the Labour party or the Scottish Goverment.
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2012-03-04 10:51
Whether there is any truth or not in this story i do not know,but what is totally despicable is that it is used to attack our democratically elected government.This is gutter politics of the lowest kind and anyone who thinks that this lot should be re-elected to govern our great country need their heads examined.
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2012-03-04 10:52
Who is going top form a Labour says YES to independence campaign? Any volunteers?
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2012-03-04 11:15
Sorry going off topic but just found another union dividend to look forward to. guardian.co.uk/…/…
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2012-03-04 15:26
Now that’s a dividend we would need to avoid!
Boy,am I glad that this lot were banned recently from Glasgow.
Boy,am I glad that this lot were banned recently from Glasgow.
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2012-03-04 11:17
Slightly off subject but I just watched the “living dead”, as far as the electorate are concerned, Moore, on the Andrew Marr Show, failing to answer one question directly, and visibly spluttering when asked who would be leading the anti-independence campaign. I think he suggested Darling, so who knows. Can anyone confirm that A.S will be appearing on Sunday Politics today?
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2012-03-04 11:25
Yes me. On Thepolitics Show on Friday Andrew Neill said he was interviewing AS at 11.30am on Sunday.
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2012-03-04 11:50
Quoting alexb:
Thanks, alicmurray. Must watch.
Slightly off subject but I just watched the “living dead”, as far as the electorate are concerned, Moore, on the Andrew Marr Show, failing to answer one question directly, and visibly spluttering when asked who would be leading the anti-independence campaign. I think he suggested Darling, so who knows. Can anyone confirm that A.S will be appearing on Sunday Politics today?
Thanks, alicmurray. Must watch.
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2012-03-04 14:13
Re: Moore’e interview.
Lamont was no better on the Politics Show this morning. It is very convenient for her to be setting up her commission, as it means she doesn’t have to answer questions about her policies for some time, giving her plenty of time to come up with some answers.
Lamont was no better on the Politics Show this morning. It is very convenient for her to be setting up her commission, as it means she doesn’t have to answer questions about her policies for some time, giving her plenty of time to come up with some answers.
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2012-03-04 11:34
It appears that all the jam tomorrow folk demand to know what an independent Scotland would be like down to the last nut and bolt but still wont say what kind of pig is in that poke!
They sneer at the possibility that Scotland can be a viable country, whispering and sometimes ranting out their shroud waving lies, daring the people to grasp independence, hoping that they will be feart enough to vote no!
It must be clear to the majority that voting no would be a betrayal to our children’s future and that the consequences of a no vote are too horrendous to imagine.
Both Labour and Lib/dums conferences only at partly full capacities. If Darling and Brown were that keen where were they?
First things first – The May elections and consolidate the message that we are still on the march to a better country which is going to be independent.
They sneer at the possibility that Scotland can be a viable country, whispering and sometimes ranting out their shroud waving lies, daring the people to grasp independence, hoping that they will be feart enough to vote no!
It must be clear to the majority that voting no would be a betrayal to our children’s future and that the consequences of a no vote are too horrendous to imagine.
Both Labour and Lib/dums conferences only at partly full capacities. If Darling and Brown were that keen where were they?
First things first – The May elections and consolidate the message that we are still on the march to a better country which is going to be independent.
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2012-03-04 13:25
Are the conferences really both going on at the same time? If so, terrible planning!
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2012-03-04 14:02
Oh I don’t know about that. Just think about the wall to wall anti-independence coverage because the MSM are covering two conferences at the one time – double or triple spreads in the papers. Look how long they got on Reporting Scotland on Friday. Will the SNP get that length of exposure or will they get one party’s worth?
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2012-03-04 11:43
Jackie Baillie well known bag carrier for Wendy all those years ago seems to have forgotton her and her party’s record on the NHS.
1. Wanted to close several A& E’s
2. Vale of leven Infection scandal under Labours watch and in her area.
3. Closure of Maternity Units eg Inverclyde –ably assisted by the Board Chairman at the time pal of Duncan McNeil MSP I believe.
4. The complete messup of the NHS24 system (thankfully now better under the SNP).
5. Scottish Ambulance Service history of problems now better.
Choose Ms Bailie Scottish NHS or England NHS?
1. Wanted to close several A& E’s
2. Vale of leven Infection scandal under Labours watch and in her area.
3. Closure of Maternity Units eg Inverclyde –ably assisted by the Board Chairman at the time pal of Duncan McNeil MSP I believe.
4. The complete messup of the NHS24 system (thankfully now better under the SNP).
5. Scottish Ambulance Service history of problems now better.
Choose Ms Bailie Scottish NHS or England NHS?
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2012-03-04 11:57
I have been both an in, and out patient at Monklands Hospital, and while well done to the S.N.P for keeping it open, and this is no criticism of the staff, it requires either demolition and rebuild, or substantial refurbishment, preferably the former. It is quite visibly falling to bits, and the patchwork repairs are quite obvious. In fact, I feel sorry for the staff who have to work in such conditions as they are certainly not conducive to good nursing care.
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2012-03-04 12:25
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2012-03-04 14:05
RTP,
I had the same thought after (unfortunately) I watched the two longish reports on Friday’s Reporting Scotland.
Both conferences on the same week-end mean that the MSM is wall to wall anti-independence from Friday to Monday.
I had the same thought after (unfortunately) I watched the two longish reports on Friday’s Reporting Scotland.
Both conferences on the same week-end mean that the MSM is wall to wall anti-independence from Friday to Monday.
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2012-03-04 14:13
I think they did their cause more harm than good.
It’s said that there is no such thing as bad publicity, but in this instance it didn’t hold true.
As AS said recently positivity always beats negativity.
It’s said that there is no such thing as bad publicity, but in this instance it didn’t hold true.
As AS said recently positivity always beats negativity.
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2012-03-04 20:46
Ok I’ll abide by the rules but I still wonder if the SNP will get the same air time as the rest from BBC.
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2012-03-04 14:10
Ms Baillie also talked about maintenance costs in the NHS.
She was again being ‘partial’ in what she said. A report was published earlier this year about the state of the NHS estate – the FIRST time such a comprehensive report had been undertaken. It identified about £1 bn worth of repairs but this would be reduced by almost halve the time you took into account the sale of redundant buildings etc.
See for more details:
bbc.co.uk/…/…
She was again being ‘partial’ in what she said. A report was published earlier this year about the state of the NHS estate – the FIRST time such a comprehensive report had been undertaken. It identified about £1 bn worth of repairs but this would be reduced by almost halve the time you took into account the sale of redundant buildings etc.
See for more details:
bbc.co.uk/…/…
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2012-03-04 14:58
What Labour need to be constantly reminded of is. They have caused a financial disaster. Which we are all having to pay for. The cuts in the Health Service are because of Labour. In financing new hospitals Labour have also burdened local Health Services with huge PFI costs. Which will take up more and more of Health budgets. All the carping Labour does at the problems in the NHS are all because of Labour.
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2012-03-04 14:18
Curran was on the news saying that she is going to go for Moore’s record on accepting welfare cuts in her speech.
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2012-03-04 14:32
This morning, Isabel Fraser’s interview with Clegg was classic from the point of view of Isabel’s facial expressions when he was answering her questions. Her facial animation was perfect – complete disbelief at what he was saying! At one point she rested her head on her hand as if to say, what a load of boring codswallop.
A thoroughly in-depth interview. If this is an example of what Westminster politicians should expect when they visit Scotland then I am all for it.
A thoroughly in-depth interview. If this is an example of what Westminster politicians should expect when they visit Scotland then I am all for it.
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2012-03-04 14:49
I thought that Isabel Fraser was spot on with Clegg this morning.
The funniest part for me (if my memory serves me right) was when he was going on about opposing two questions on the Ballot paper when he said ‘what do you do if every one answers yes, yes’
No wonder the Lib Dums are finished politically and will find this out at the next election.
The funniest part for me (if my memory serves me right) was when he was going on about opposing two questions on the Ballot paper when he said ‘what do you do if every one answers yes, yes’
No wonder the Lib Dums are finished politically and will find this out at the next election.
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2012-03-04 16:05
The other answer which didn’t jell too well for me was when she asked Clegg about the deterioration of pensions. Clegg went on to say that public service pensions were a great deal, better than private sector pensions. It doesn’t really say much for the private sector and the benefits of capitalism when peoples’ conditions of employment are being undercut with devastating effect,
especially when some private sector firms are swilling about in money being thrown at them from the public purse, e.g from PFI contracts. There is also the controversy over companies who are making huge profits from public contracts to get people back into work, unjustifed it seems from the numbers they are achieving.
especially when some private sector firms are swilling about in money being thrown at them from the public purse, e.g from PFI contracts. There is also the controversy over companies who are making huge profits from public contracts to get people back into work, unjustifed it seems from the numbers they are achieving.
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2012-03-04 17:52
Quoting scotsmanc1:
My estimation of Isabel Fraser has gone up ten fold, Her keeping a straight face when interviewing Clegg and Lamont thought I couldn’t follow Ms Lamont made no sense.
I thought that Isabel Fraser was spot on with Clegg this morning.
The funniest part for me (if my memory serves me right) was when he was going on about opposing two questions on the Ballot paper when he said ‘what do you do if every one answers yes, yes’
No wonder the Lib Dums are finished politically and will find this out at the next election.
My estimation of Isabel Fraser has gone up ten fold, Her keeping a straight face when interviewing Clegg and Lamont thought I couldn’t follow Ms Lamont made no sense.
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2012-03-04 15:01
That’s what I thought. 🙂
I was sure Isabel was going to say “You don’t have a clue what your talking about,do you Mr Clegg?”
Very Funny
I was sure Isabel was going to say “You don’t have a clue what your talking about,do you Mr Clegg?”
Very Funny
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2012-03-04 14:40
I don’t believe Ms Baille at all. I have been in hospitals and so have many members of my family over the years. We have had both good and bad experiences however blankets were never an issue.
This is scaremongering of the worst type obviously Ms Baillie wants a privatised NHS as in England as the preferred model. The future for them is one of scandals like this.
This is scaremongering of the worst type obviously Ms Baillie wants a privatised NHS as in England as the preferred model. The future for them is one of scandals like this.
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2012-03-04 18:52
Ms Baillie maybe thinks she is attacking the NHS as an organization, but it seems that it is the staff who are taking the brunt of her invective.
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2012-03-04 15:25
Apparently, on Facebook, it wasnt blankets, but bed pans!
Not much difference there!
Next we know she’ll be blaming Cybernat Black Ops for catching her hook line and sinker with duff info!
Not that I would put such an idea into anyone’s head!
Not much difference there!
Next we know she’ll be blaming Cybernat Black Ops for catching her hook line and sinker with duff info!
Not that I would put such an idea into anyone’s head!
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2012-03-04 15:34
Johann Lamont–Perhaps the time to act swiftly?
To err once is a mistake,but twice——–?
Lamont: Labour needs to stop apologising for past mistakes
To err once is a mistake,but twice——–?
Lamont: Labour needs to stop apologising for past mistakes
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2012-03-04 15:44
Anyone with a little bit of research could write a piece on the calous disregard of patients needs under the Lib/lab Holyrood coalition from 1999 to 2007.
It is not hard to find all the information on fiscal malfeasance from PFI to hospital taxi contracts initiated by Labour over the same period.
Monkland’s is the mess it is because of the incompetence of Labour appointees in North Lanark Health Board (which with out major subsidy of its badly negotiated PFI contracts from the Scottish Government would be bankrupt).
Of course in 2011 all this mis use of NHS funds for political agendas would have been ‘sorted’ (aka buried and blamed on the SNP) when a liblab colalition was returned to Holyrood as per the script in their own tiny minds.
It hasn’t of course so now the good people of the West of Scotland are seeing health services collapsing because the money that should be available is in the back pockets of Labour’s local pals and the banks. The same is now happening with the local education funding in the West of Scotland.
Monklands was supposed to be closed because it represents one of the few bits of valuable real estate North Lanarkshire Health Board still own – not because it is not needed.
The problem is if you put all the Labour disasters on health provision in one article the MSM will not print it and neither will Newsnet because the information if published would see Labour in Scotland looking for ways to shut Newsnet down – make of that as you will – but that was the reason why an article I researched and wrote on fiscal malfeasance in West of Scotland councils was rejected.
It is not hard to find all the information on fiscal malfeasance from PFI to hospital taxi contracts initiated by Labour over the same period.
Monkland’s is the mess it is because of the incompetence of Labour appointees in North Lanark Health Board (which with out major subsidy of its badly negotiated PFI contracts from the Scottish Government would be bankrupt).
Of course in 2011 all this mis use of NHS funds for political agendas would have been ‘sorted’ (aka buried and blamed on the SNP) when a liblab colalition was returned to Holyrood as per the script in their own tiny minds.
It hasn’t of course so now the good people of the West of Scotland are seeing health services collapsing because the money that should be available is in the back pockets of Labour’s local pals and the banks. The same is now happening with the local education funding in the West of Scotland.
Monklands was supposed to be closed because it represents one of the few bits of valuable real estate North Lanarkshire Health Board still own – not because it is not needed.
The problem is if you put all the Labour disasters on health provision in one article the MSM will not print it and neither will Newsnet because the information if published would see Labour in Scotland looking for ways to shut Newsnet down – make of that as you will – but that was the reason why an article I researched and wrote on fiscal malfeasance in West of Scotland councils was rejected.
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2012-03-04 16:58
Mad Jock
Can you not publish it on your own blog?
I would love to read what you have found out.
Can you not publish it on your own blog?
I would love to read what you have found out.
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2012-03-04 15:48
O/T
Breaking News on BBC
Quote:
Breaking News on BBC
Quote:
Scottish lawyer Paul McBride QC, who two men are accused of conspiring to murder, dies in Pakistan
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2012-03-04 16:21
Also O/T but more bad news: Daily Record:
An MSP has been suspended following allegations of domestic abuse.
The SNP said that it has suspended Dunfermline MSP Bill Walker from both the party and the parliamentary group.
The allegations concern his three former wives and an investigation will now be carried out by the party.
An SNP spokesman said: “The allegations relate to events many years ago, before Mr Walker entered politics.
“They are clearly very serious, and the SNP’s strong and consistent position is one of zero tolerance of violence against women.
“No such information was reported in Mr Walker’s candidate process, as is required of all prospective candidates, and therefore we have suspended Mr Walker from both the party and the parliamentary group pending a full investigation of the facts and circumstances.”
An MSP has been suspended following allegations of domestic abuse.
The SNP said that it has suspended Dunfermline MSP Bill Walker from both the party and the parliamentary group.
The allegations concern his three former wives and an investigation will now be carried out by the party.
An SNP spokesman said: “The allegations relate to events many years ago, before Mr Walker entered politics.
“They are clearly very serious, and the SNP’s strong and consistent position is one of zero tolerance of violence against women.
“No such information was reported in Mr Walker’s candidate process, as is required of all prospective candidates, and therefore we have suspended Mr Walker from both the party and the parliamentary group pending a full investigation of the facts and circumstances.”
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2012-03-04 16:56
Sad news indeed.
I hope that his death was as peaceful and straightforward as it first sounds.
I hope that his death was as peaceful and straightforward as it first sounds.
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2012-03-04 15:58
NHS bashing looks in danger of becoming a new national sport. The NHS is going to have to struggle more with cuts brought about through Labour misrule.
1)This leaves a number of possibilities. People can be realistic and appreciate even while struggling they are lucky to have a great health service. They can get behind their local health service and provide support understanding that staff are having to work in a more demanding environment with less resources.
2) Lobby a political party to increase taxation for the NHS such as Denmark has to a level of 50%. This way maybe people who want a luxury service with staff waiting on hand and foot can realistically pay for it.
3) Go BUPA.
4) Carry on carping and wingeing about every little petty fault until you bring the health service to its knees and drive staff away from the service.
I think some would benefit from a time spent in the health services of other countries. Where they are lucky to get vital medications and treatment. Never mind getting their pillows fluffed. I’ve been in other countries where people have been given life saving treatment in the middle of nowhere with no resources and they have appreciated what they got. They didn’t whine about waiting, comfort and luxury.
1)This leaves a number of possibilities. People can be realistic and appreciate even while struggling they are lucky to have a great health service. They can get behind their local health service and provide support understanding that staff are having to work in a more demanding environment with less resources.
2) Lobby a political party to increase taxation for the NHS such as Denmark has to a level of 50%. This way maybe people who want a luxury service with staff waiting on hand and foot can realistically pay for it.
3) Go BUPA.
4) Carry on carping and wingeing about every little petty fault until you bring the health service to its knees and drive staff away from the service.
I think some would benefit from a time spent in the health services of other countries. Where they are lucky to get vital medications and treatment. Never mind getting their pillows fluffed. I’ve been in other countries where people have been given life saving treatment in the middle of nowhere with no resources and they have appreciated what they got. They didn’t whine about waiting, comfort and luxury.
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2012-03-04 17:01
O/T but I watched the FM’s interview with Andrew Neil. Both men did well, Neil was firm and rigourous in his questions and Eck was consistent and clear in response.
What struck me and I think should be highlighted and repeated is that many of Neil’s questions were not about Independence as such, but about economic policy, which by necessity is required to be flexible over time. The underlying point is of course that only Independence can give Scotland the tools & powers to elect Governments that adapt as the unwritten future unfolds.
[I also wondered whether Neil might be persuaded to enter Scottish politics. I know he is a committed unionist but he’s intelligent and just maybe someone like him could be attracted by the chance of oneday becoming Prime Minister of Europe’s oldest nation.]
What struck me and I think should be highlighted and repeated is that many of Neil’s questions were not about Independence as such, but about economic policy, which by necessity is required to be flexible over time. The underlying point is of course that only Independence can give Scotland the tools & powers to elect Governments that adapt as the unwritten future unfolds.
[I also wondered whether Neil might be persuaded to enter Scottish politics. I know he is a committed unionist but he’s intelligent and just maybe someone like him could be attracted by the chance of oneday becoming Prime Minister of Europe’s oldest nation.]
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2012-03-04 17:28
Aye! Neil was homing in on legitimate concerns for folk and AS was giving the answers but lacked,in my opinion,the assurance in his delivery that we have become used to.
OK but AS not on top form but still head and shoulders above yesterdays lot.
Noticed Lib/dums Inverness conference almost deserted again on the TV with Blubber, I wonder if it’s been the same in Dundee for Ms Curran’s attack on the coalition this afternoon.
OK but AS not on top form but still head and shoulders above yesterdays lot.
Noticed Lib/dums Inverness conference almost deserted again on the TV with Blubber, I wonder if it’s been the same in Dundee for Ms Curran’s attack on the coalition this afternoon.
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2012-03-04 17:14
I would bet that after Statesminister Alex Salmond steps down, Statesminister Nicola Sturgeon will replace him (courtesy of the Scottish electorate, of course).
I think, post independence, we will see a good number of years of competent SNP government.
I think, post independence, we will see a good number of years of competent SNP government.
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2012-03-04 18:53
I agree that competent SNP government is the way forward.
All I’m suggesting above is that we are going to have a Prime Minister soon enough and the existence of that job changes the attitude of politically minded people across the parties.
Which honest, capable Scot of ambition would not aspire to that office ?
Also, I think Prime Minister is the only appropriate term, it is the one people understand and gives a sense of parity with certain other countries. Ideally the first holder of that office will be given the title in the first Act of our newly Independent parliament.
All I’m suggesting above is that we are going to have a Prime Minister soon enough and the existence of that job changes the attitude of politically minded people across the parties.
Which honest, capable Scot of ambition would not aspire to that office ?
Also, I think Prime Minister is the only appropriate term, it is the one people understand and gives a sense of parity with certain other countries. Ideally the first holder of that office will be given the title in the first Act of our newly Independent parliament.
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2012-03-04 20:05
On page 11 of todays Herald “Baille later admitted that this claim was wrong”.
Typical Labour and not even an apology for the scandalous comments.
Typical Labour and not even an apology for the scandalous comments.
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2012-03-04 21:50
Don’t have a copy of the Herald, and I can’t spot it online.
Can someone do me a favour and post a copy of the relevant paragraph?
Can someone do me a favour and post a copy of the relevant paragraph?
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2012-03-05 01:41
Here you go
Independent carer representative to site on shadow cabinet
A non politician is to sit in future meetings of Labour’s shadow cabinet to promote the interests of carers, the party announced yesterday.
Health spokeswomen Jackie Baillie, right, said the new appointment would ensure the needs of those looking after relatives, whose work saves the public sector £10 billion a year, would be a key factor in policy making.
She said: “We are determined that the concerns of carers will be at the very heart of our policy and thinking as we move forward. Not just in the health portfolio, but in education, in employment, across every area of devolved responsibility.
Baillie also attacked the SNP’s record on NHS funding, saying it was leading to staff cuts and patients being left with not enough bedding in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. She said: “The SNP can’t even get the basics right. In one hospital in Greater Glasgow and Clyde patients are even having to share blankets because of the cuts.”
Baillie later admitted that this claim was wrong: no patient had been left without their own blanket, only that some patients wanted more blankets.
Baillie also said MSPs Dr Richard Simpson and Graeme Pearson, former police chief, would work up new measures to tackle health and crime problems linked alcohol. In additon, Drew Smith, the shadow social justice minister, is to establish a “sounding board” to help address child poverty.
Independent carer representative to site on shadow cabinet
A non politician is to sit in future meetings of Labour’s shadow cabinet to promote the interests of carers, the party announced yesterday.
Health spokeswomen Jackie Baillie, right, said the new appointment would ensure the needs of those looking after relatives, whose work saves the public sector £10 billion a year, would be a key factor in policy making.
She said: “We are determined that the concerns of carers will be at the very heart of our policy and thinking as we move forward. Not just in the health portfolio, but in education, in employment, across every area of devolved responsibility.
Baillie also attacked the SNP’s record on NHS funding, saying it was leading to staff cuts and patients being left with not enough bedding in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. She said: “The SNP can’t even get the basics right. In one hospital in Greater Glasgow and Clyde patients are even having to share blankets because of the cuts.”
Baillie later admitted that this claim was wrong: no patient had been left without their own blanket, only that some patients wanted more blankets.
Baillie also said MSPs Dr Richard Simpson and Graeme Pearson, former police chief, would work up new measures to tackle health and crime problems linked alcohol. In additon, Drew Smith, the shadow social justice minister, is to establish a “sounding board” to help address child poverty.
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2012-03-04 20:40
Is Jackie Baillie trying to turn public opinion against the NHS ? Is this part of a softening up plan ? Are labour thinking they will get back in in Scotland one day, and then they can sell off the NHS, same as their pals are doing in England now ?
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