By a Newsnet reporter

A leading academic has challenged claims that a newly independent Scotland would be expelled from the European Union.
Giving evidence to the European & External Relations Committee, Professor Michael Keating said suggestions that Scotland would find itself outside of the EU for any period of time were “unrealistic” and that such a scenario was “in nobody’s interest “.

The academic, who is Professor of Politics at the University of Aberdeen dismissed claims by the anti-independence campaign, saying “it is simply in nobody’s interest to create a hole in the single market, to disrupt all the relationships between Scotland and the European Union simply to put them back in place again.  Everybody would lose out of this.”

Professor Keating also dismissed claims from the No camp that an independent Scotland would be forced to join Schengen, stating that “remaining outside Schengen and in the common travel area is a lot more easier to negotiate than getting into Schengen.”

He added, “…there’s no question of being forced into Schengen unwillingly because you’ve got to be willing to meet all the obligations of it – so I don’t think that would be a problem.”

In a further blow to opponents of independence, Professor Keating also made clear that negotiating for an independent Scotland to maintain similar terms to the UK would be easier than negotiating a new set of terms, stating “that actually simplifies matters – it doesn’t complicate matters – it simplifies matters because you already have a template there.”

According to the academic, “Scotland would not, and could not, be excluded from the EU”.  Professor Keating, in his written submission also said that a prolonged accession process would not be necessary.

The reasons listed included:

* There is no reason for other EU states to refuse to recognise Scotland if the UK has done so.
* An independent, democratic Scotland, recognised by all member states and conforming with the acquis communautaire could hardly be excluded from the EU simply because it had exercised its democratic rights.
* Independence would occur after a transition period (seen now as two years) in which details of EU membership could be negotiated.
* It would not be in the interest of the rUK, other member states or business to disrupt the internal market or to change the status of EU citizens living, working and studying in Scotland.
* Neither Scotland nor rUK is going to erect customs posts.
* Scottish citizens are EU citizens and could not be deprived of their rights arbitrarily. EU rather than international law might be relevant here.
* A fast-track form of accession could be agreed, either by the accession process of by treaty amendment.

Commenting, SNP MSP Christina McKelvie welcomed the evidence by Professor Keating calling it “a timely injection of common sense”

The MSP added: “The fears and scaremongering that the No campaign has been engaging in when it comes to Scotland’s place in Europe have been comprehensively debunked by expert evidence today.

“From claims that Scotland would be left outside the EU to assertions that Scotland would somehow be forced to join Schengen, the No campaign’s scare stories have been left in tatters today.

“After a Yes vote next year and before independence in 2016, Scotland will negotiate our place in the European Union – so that our membership is a seamless one.

“That is in the interests not just of people in Scotland, but also the interests of other EU countries whose citizens live, work and study here and whose businesses trade freely in Scotland.

“As Professor Keating also made clear today, there is’‘no guarantee that the UK will be a member of the European Union after 2017′. That is the real threat to Scotland’s place in Europe.

“With a Yes vote next year, we will be able to develop our own positive relationship with our European neighbours, instead of being dragged down by the UKIP dominated agenda of Westminster.”

Professor Keating’s evidence coincided with the publication in the Scotsman of an article by Brandon Malone of the Law Society of Scotland in which he argued that the remainder of the UK cannot automatically assume it will be the continuing state in the event of independence.

The leading advocate insisted that EU membership and treaty benefits currently enjoyed by the UK should be seen as assets like any other, to which an independent Scotland has a claim.

“Scotland is no rebel breakaway enclave. What is proposed is the democratic, negotiated dissolution of what is, in the grand sweep of history, a comparatively short-lived union. Is it at all credible for the Westminster government to say that, in the event of a Yes vote, rUK will inherit the UK’s treaty benefits, including in particular EU membership, and Scotland will not?” wrote Mr Malone.

The lawyer also argued that interrelated rights enjoyed by other EU members in relation to Scotland meant that expulsion from the EU, even temporarily, was near imposible.

According to the leading advocate, “given the EU’s culture, history and politics, and the rights that EU citizens from other member states enjoy in relation to its territory (eg fishing rights) and institutions (eg student funding), it is inconceivable that Scotland would be expelled, even on an interim basis.”

The No campaign has claimed that a newly independent Scotland would be thrown out of the EU and have to re-apply for membership.  Last week Unionists seized on comments from Spanish PM Mariano Rajoy who made similar claims.

However in October an EC official stated that there would be no legal barrier to Scotland re-negotiating a continuation of its current membership whilst remaining within the EU, following a Yes vote.

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2013-12-05 22:23

Whoops, another No campaign scare story bites the dust! But this is also a new and interesting argument that sees EU membership as an asset to which we will have a claim. It contests the assumption that what is left of the former UK must necessarily be the successor state. The wishful thinking is all on the No campaign’s side.
2013-12-05 22:31

As we have seen recently,Scotti  sh MPs and the HOL will no doubt put pressure on a Westminster Tory government to obstruct Scotland’s accession.
After all,they will have nothing to lose,especially if it becomes clear that England will be exiting the EU anyway.
At that point,we will find out whether the Edinburgh Agreement is worth the paper it is written on or not.
2013-12-05 22:42

The unionist scare story about Scotland being expelled from the EU is just that; a story. A fiction.

Just imagine if they did expel us. Any one of us, or all of us, could take the European Union to the European Court of Human Rights.

How silly and embarrassing would that be?

Legally I suspect that it would be more difficult to remove our European citizenship than to just find a swift solution to our continued membership.

Just because westminster would like it to be difficult doesn’t mean it has to be.
2013-12-05 23:24

We all know Scotland’s continued membership of the EU is guaranteed and that there are no legal impediments to that continued membership being re-negotiated during the 18 months transition from UK to independence.

And what’s more, Project Feart know it too–of course they do. But holding onto a wholly untenable position, a completely bogus argument is all they can do. It suits their agenda and that of their complicit backers, the MSM & BBC. They all know the true position but will do everything they can to ensure that it goes no further, that the people of Scotland only get to hear their version.

They will do whatever it takes to get a NO victory and that includes spreading blatant lies that serve only to undermine our very democracy.

For the sake of truth and democracy in this country, we simply MUST win this thing.

YES Scotland
2013-12-05 23:37

Wow! What a story!. Can see the MSM here lining up to make this one headline news. How about it BBC? Hello, BBC? STV? Anybody???

Never mind, as this evening shows, normal service continues – Danny Alexander being gifted a full 2 minute anti-SNP/anti-Scot Govt./anti-Indy rantathon, c/o Radio Jockland’s ‘Newsdrivel’, instead of having to justify to the listener why he and his Tory bed-fellows are forcing the state pension age up, cutting Scotland’s budget, using smoke and mirrors to claim otherwise, etc. etc.

Just as well I’ve stopped paying the licence fee, or else some of my hard earned £ might have been spend on tonight’s woeful ‘Newsdrivel’ output. Can’t have any of that nonsense going on, no-sir-ee…
call me dave
2013-12-06 00:08

Here is Prof Keating.
1min and 40secs in.…/…
2013-12-06 10:04

The truth will out!

Thank you Prof. Keating!
2013-12-06 13:24

When talking to people on door steps and the EU question pops up as it nearly always does. I ask the question – Would the 20+ EU countries want to exclude and veto a net contributor country i.e SCOTLAND or stay with a debtor country e.g Spain or Greece. It would be in Europes best interest to make sure of Scotlands inclusion.
2013-12-06 19:26

Quite so, and on net contributor nations you could mention West Germany, which swallowed the non-compliant old DDR without the EC or the membership noticing except to give them more MEPs.

2013-12-06 14:30

So refreshing to see an honest piece of intellectual appraisal of the facts ‘sans spin’ or as Christine McKelvie puts it “a timely injection of common sense”.

YES is having an excellent end to 2013 and if it continues like this we will go into 2014 with smiles on our faces and heads held high.

VOTE YES on the 18th
call me dave
2013-12-06 15:00

Is opinion turning, a few sensible voices to start the ball rolling and then the ‘better together’ dam of lies crumbles away.

We are almost getting past the treading treacle stage, one or two more wee steps and independence can be discussed properly in the open. We will win!
2013-12-06 21:18

What is different from any time in the last 100 years is that Independence has credible politicians proposing a full, credible offering & an increasing number of credible non-politicians speaking out positively.
Salmond & Sturgeon are justifiably highly regarded, Independence is no longer seen as an unworkable nice idea suited only to romantics.
It is now a powerful, coherent, workable, attractive proposition.
Afterall, people do believe in the idea of ‘Scotland’, they’ve just never thought it could really work.
Now they are realising it can work & it will work.

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