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By a Newsnet reporter
Gordon Brown has come under fire today after calling for Scotland’s education to be brought under UK control.
The former Prime Minister, who has shoehorned himself into the independence debate front-line, made the call in a speech at Edinburgh University.
The former Labour leader called for an end to Scotland’s centuries old education system and for common UK exams and qualifications. Mr Brown claimed most young Scots didn’t want to be edcucated in an exclusively Scottish education system but instead wanted it intergated into one which was UK wide.
Insisting young Scots were “suspicious of being seen as exclusively Scottish”, the Labour MP added: “… breaking all links with the UK makes no sense – in this case for our young people and for their education.”
Scotland’s distinctive education system, which is revered across the world, was protected by the act of Union over 300 years ago.
The speech by the Kirkaldy MP comes on the day his party colleague, Better Together head Alistair Darling, questioned the Scottish Government’s free university education policy.
Mr Darling said: “It’s perfectly plain that their idea of free university education for Scots, but charging students from elsewhere in the UK, is legally unsustainable, and their assertion that Research Council funding would remain even after Scotland had left the UK is simply laughable.”
Commenting on the speeches, Kenneth Gibson MSP said:
“Having undermined the No campaign last week by calling for David Cameron to debate with Alex Salmond, Gordon Brown has done it again. This week, he has endorsed the idea of a UK-wide education system – which could only mean taking powers away from Scotland and giving them back to Westminster – on the very day Alistair Darling and the No campaign are desperately trying to say that they stand for more powers for Scotland.
“In bizarrely arguing against having the Scottish education system, Gordon Brown makes the Yes case for us. If education was controlled by Westminster, not in the Scottish Parliament, Michael Gove would be deciding education policy for Scotland – I doubt if a single person in Scotland would want that, other than Gordon Brown. And students in Scotland would be paying £9,000 a year tuition fees as is the case south of the border, instead of enjoying the benefits of free education.
“We are better off taking decisions for Scotland in Scotland – and by becoming independent we can apply these benefits to the rest of our national life currently controlled by Westminster, including job-creation, getting rid of nuclear weapons, and representing ourselves in Europe.
“That is the real international outlook for young people and everyone in Scotland – instead of having our horizons limited by Westminster, which doesn’t represent Scottish votes or our interests.
“The Yes campaign published a new poll today showing that only a third of people in Scotland trust the Westminster parties to deliver more powers – and no wonder, when Gordon Brown is praising an idea that would actually strip the Scottish Parliament of powers!
“We already know that three-times as many people in Scotland trust the Scottish Parliament, rather than Westminster, to make the right decisions for Scotland – and that is the essence of what a Yes vote is all about.”
He is right however about tuition fees for English students, the SNP are on pretty shaky legal ground on that one, but there are numerous ways to get around the EU rules such as charging all students fees but giving Scottish students an equivalent credit back via a maintenance allowance and so on. This already happens elsewhere and is legit. English students will not be able to study here for free whatever happens.
Words fail, just fetch the straitjacket. Crash Gordon is crashing.
His left hand repeatedly touching the lectern, as though some sort of talisman, his far from dulcet tones will boom forth the immortal line…
“The trouble with Scotland is that it’s full of Scots”.
Taxi for Brown!
Clearly the person writing this article lives in an alternate reality and has not witnessed at first hand the destruction of the once great Scottish Education system, the ‘Curriculum for Excellence’ being the nail in the coffin. Thankfully Gordon Brown is not afraid to speak the truth.
Your oil is our oil.
Your whisky is our whisky.
Your industry cannot compete.
Your industry is expendable.
Your people rely on state handouts.
Your people must pay for our infrastructure.
Our infrastructure will never serve you.
Your people are expendable.
You will listen to the BBC.
You will watch the BBC.
You will be denied your own news broadcasting.
Your language is a low brow bastardisation of ours.
Your culture is a low brow bastardisation of ours.
Your language and culture survives because we allow it.
Your assets are our assets.
Our assets do not belong to you.
Our flag represents patriotism.
Your flag is to be ridiculed.
Our ridicule and abuse of your people will be tolerated as free speech.
Your muted abuse of our people will be vilified.
You will bow to your betters.
Education complete.
Only a CLOWN would listen to BROWN
I’m also with Talorgan, I had to scrape my jaw off my keyboard too. As our American cousins say: the stupid, it burns.
Mr Brown has always, but always been about a unitary state known as the UK. Scotland would be a region of the UK and in his mind I’m sure a distinct entity, but a region none the less and with a region’s powers. In his vision there apparently is no country called Scotland, there is no partnership or treaty of union.
Crawford/Boyle’s report made Mr Brown’s case quite clear an expanded and rebranded greater England. Scotland as a nation, absorbed and ceasing to exist in this scenario. There was a reason our law, education and church were left separate entities in the treaty of union. They were seen to define us and pay at least lip service to the notion of a partnership and union between distinctive individual entities. Mr Brown’s proposals, indeed the premise of the whole Westminster case would see this distinctiveness removed.
“Scotland performs at a consistently very high standard in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA). Few countries can be said with confidence to outperform it in mathematics, reading and science. Scotland also has one of the most equitable school systems in the OECD. Only a very small proportion of Scottish 15 year-olds are assessed in the lowest bands of performance… On national tests, many children are one or two years in advance of expected levels.”
As for the Curriculum for Excellence you mention – it does have its weak points, but on the whole I think it’s a great improvement in many areas, especially with its emphasis on “source analysis” – i.e. thinking for yourself and figuring out in what ways material might be biased. That’s an invaluable skill in today’s info-flooeded internet world.
Hand in Hand with this is GIRFEC the education component of which, in tandem with the HWB Subject area of the CfE ensures the drive is for every child to be safe, healthy, active, nurtured, achivieng, respected, responsible and involved.
Respct teachers, please.